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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are the percentages across the board or for the school internally? Is your kid 75th percentile nationwide or within X School?[/quote] Yes, only provided national norms percentiles.[/quote] And ... what else do you want? If you want more, then go into the teacher and discuss the MAP scores. Ask them about the Class Growth Chart. It gives a district norm. I am not sure how much that will help you, though, if you're not satisfied with the national norm data. Certainly, no matter where you are located, it would be expected that an upper SES child would score better than a low SES child; however, beyond that you are splitting hairs if you expect that a "good school" will have a material effect on the outcome of a random test score. The trend data is going to be more important than anything else. Is your child showing continued improvement?[/quote] It’s not just SES. A good curriculum will cover content and knowledge and of course has an impact on the test scores. I’m not disputing growth trend is important but content knowledge is also absolutely important and directly tied to the curriculum.[/quote] Soooooo....you think your child's MAP score will somehow prove that your child's school isn't teaching grade level curriculum? Really? Why aren't you looking at the curriculum framework for the content area? Why haven't you gone in to talk to the teacher and/or principal about your concerns? Your child's performance on the MAP doesn't prove anything. A careful evaluation of the curriculum, the resources provided, the materials used in class, etc., all relate to the development of content knowledge in a child. One child's performance on the MAP does not.[/quote] This is BS. Parents rely on the school to teach appropriate content knowledge in the curriculum. They should not have to research all this. The MAP distribution at a school absolutely is an indicator if the curriculum is appropriate with content knowledge. If the bell shape curve skews way to the left at a school then the kids don’t have adequate content knowledge for their grade. School data should absolutely be shared with parents. Furthermore, as a parent, they can look at the school distribution to see relatively where their child stands. If majority of school in the bell shape curve is between 60-80% and your child is 30-40% then that is a flag of some learning issue or deficicency,[/quote] This. And the last thing I want to see is a 60% tile nationally and a 90%tile at a school. = poor instruction school or curriculum Likewise, as pP said, 60tile nationally and 40% at school = kid is behind, needs help from the school. [/quote]
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