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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It seems like it's done. As I understand the neighborhood concerns (and it's not one person, it's all the surrounding neighborhoods plus JFAC and many others), it's that they spent all this money and time and years of planning talking about one thing with a set of fixed assumptions that could not be changed, and then threw all that out the window and now said they are willing to basically tear down everything else on the site, but have never explained or budgeted how it will all work.

By abandoning the existing building, they have to spend money on a second project down the road. I saw on AEM that's apparently going to be for Montessori now? So it ends up being a lot of APS' overall budget being spent one that one parcel of land.

But like I said, it seems like it's done, and too bad for any other project.[/quote]

So that plan came in even higher and they had to scrap it. Remember that? They can’t work around the old CC building and make a really usable HS for as many students as they envision serving within the budget. Montessori is smaller, and I guess they think it will cost less to renovate the CC to become a Pre-K-5 or 8th grade building. Montessori is going to push for a fancy upgrade, but I don’t think they’re going to get it. They need to be happy with whatever they get out of that building. [/quote]

The last plan that was way over budget (the 2020 plan) was much larger building: $235+ million for 2200 students. Now they are talking about $170 million for 1800 students or $153 million for 1350. So that's a cost per seat of: $106,818; $94,444; or $113,333 (but those last two numbers don't include whatever the cost is to turn the existing CC into the new MPSA when you tear down the old Henry building -- which is probably not a net gain of any seats). So it's not as straight forward as they are pretending it is, cost-wise.

The cheapest part of the last plan was renovating the existing space. APS never proposed what it would cost to take the existing space and re-do it for 1350 CC students. But there is no way that's not cheaper than everything they are talking about now.

But I agree with PP's above: a) this is typical, and b) it's done. So I have a hard time still caring. [/quote]

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