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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]But would you not agree that it appers to be Russia is winning more battles and gaining more land in eastern Ukraine? [/quote] NP. Yes. But was that the ultimate goal? No. It was a quick, special operation to decapitate. They didn't do that. [/quote] OP here. Yes, I do agree Russia has not achieved their initial objectives but at the end of the day, it's all about control and Russia seems to gaining control over eastern Ukraine (and paying heavy price for it). I don't see the weapons we are sending now helping Ukraine regaining lost areas do you? US is too slow to act, it seems. [/quote] Wasn't much of the area that looks to soon be firmly under Russian control [i]very much[/i] under Russian control before February? It seems possible that when fighting eases Russia will have taken Mariupol and little else that wasn't very much under its thumb already. Or am I incorrect? [/quote] Well, sort of. Excluding Crimea, Russia controlled parts of two regions but did not fully control either of the two regions. Also, "control" is kind of a nuanced discussion here. The areas were wildly depopulated after the 2014 war, with millions seeking IDP status in other parts of Ukraine. Each had its own corrupt local government, but those two corrupt local governments were not on great terms with one another. So, Russia "controlled' two depopulated areas being run by Russian-backed criminals. It wasn't exactly a winning proposition for them. Now they control most/all of those two regions, as well as having leveled a major Ukrainian city (Mariupol) and occupying others (Kherson, Melitopol). However, they are facing insurgencies in all occupied areas. So, yes, Russia "controls" more land but they're also facing a significant challenge in keeping those against both a determined Ukrainian assault with Western weaponry and insurgencies inside the occupied areas. [/quote]
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