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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My son did not get in the pool for the CES. His MAP-R scores were in the 94 percentile for Fall 2021 and 90 percentile for Winter 2021. While I don't think he is suited/qualified for the CES, I am hoping he will get into the ELC (His school offers the ELC.) How hard is it to get into the ELC if a student was not in the CES pool? Will the Spring Map-R be used for the selection? If a student did not get selected for the ELC at the 4th grade, can the student still have a chance for the 5th grade? Thanks in advance. [/quote] Even at one of the higher-performing schools, those scores should've been sufficient for the CES pool. The bar isn't that high and MCPS scores are within a few percent of national norms according to the data they've shared. There are other reasons a student might be disqualified like getting less than an A in.a relevant subject like writing. I would appeal the selection or lack thereof because this seems off and definitely contact the school about ELC.[/quote] This is not true. Call MCPS and get the facts - at the lowest FARMS schools, a student needed a winter MAP-R score in the 96th percentile and higher to qualify for the pool. My DD's 95th percentile winter MAP-R was "locally normed" down to the 83rd percentile and she didn't qualify for the pool solely because of that (need to be 85+ after local norming).[/quote] MCPS publishes this data. The difference was a few percentage points and even the differences between schools was not that significant. Again this is public record. I know it may not be what you want to hear but those are the facts.[/quote] No, you're wrong. Either you're looking at the wrong data and coming up with the wrong conclusions or you don't understand how MCPS created locally normed scores for the lowest FARMS schools. I encourage you to call the Division of Consortia Choice and Application Program Services at 240-740-2540 and ask them yourself. They will walk you through how they locally normed scores at the lowest FARMS schools. They're quite transparent and helpful. When locally norming students, they made up a pool of schools with similar FARMS rates and then looked at what MAP-R score among students at those schools was at the 85th percentile of students at those schools. For the lowest FARMS schools, that top 15% number was a MAP-R raw score that's in the 96th percentile nationwide. Meaning that, to be in the 85th percentile at these specific schools, a student needed a score that was at or above the 96th percentile nationwide. Sure, the MCPS district-wide MAP-R Norm Grade Level Mean is typically just a few points higher than the national Norm Grade Level Mean. But when MCPS grouped together the highest performing schools for purposes of local norming, the delta was much larger. [/quote]
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