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Just attended a talk yesterday where a college counselor said that NO ONE was safe anymore when applying at any institution with a 20% or lower admit rate.

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This is old news.  If a school accepts 2 in 10 applicants (and most Top 20 schools select  less than 1), no kid is a guarantee.  But my hunch is that a special kid will get into some top school.  I would advise the kid to take his shot ED, and then have a big backup plan.  I have not heard of a valedictorian being shut out completely, for example.  She may not get into an Ivy but she will get in somewhere.[/quote]

PP you replied to. That same counselor told us that in many years of practice, the only kid he was reasonably sure would get into an Ivy had been told by their athletic coach that if the student kept up their grades, he would make sure she got in.

The counselor also told us that academic excellence is merely a tool for universities to reject you, if you're not good enough. Once you have the grades/scores/top courses, they look at what else you've done in order to be let in.

Valedictorians, my foot. Some have been rejected from all the Ivies they applied to, PP. Stop dreaming.[/quote]

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