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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Russia would get crushed by the US in a conventional war.  Mainly due to our logistics and ability to hit them from Allied bases with air power and cruise missiles.
Russia would quickly resort to nuclear options and then It really depends on how quick we can find their subs and how many of their icbms actually launch and are accurate.
Our missile defense systems may knock out some but there are simply too many offensive weapons for the defense systems to hit them all.

I think we have learned that if their conventional equipment is not maintained what are they doing on the nuclear side.  Those weapons systems are way more expensive to maintain.
Maybe that is where they are spending their money; or maybe only 50% of their nuclear inventory is actually useable.  [/quote]

Russia is not the USSR.  Not even close.  In a real shooting war NATO will likely have air supremacy in a week.  That is because there is a limit to how much air they could bring from other parts of Russia and because their planes are several generations behind ours.  Once we have that, there is no more Russian logistics.  Army seems ill-trained (as an aside this is why we are not having a draft army ever again).  Equipment is just pasty 1990s levels.  Logistics is the most important thing.  The US plans logistics ahead of operations.  Russia seemed to think this was not needed.

Will they win in Ukraine?  Of course.  Just a matter of time.  Will they learn and get better?  To a point.  But the investment that is needed based on what we saw, they do not have.  They are probably a trillion dollars away from having a US level force.  They do not have a trillion extra and are not likely to ever get it.

Nukes are the real issue and the only real source of their power.  Their nukes do not really work but you only need a few so it is a real threat we have to deal with.[/quote]

Iraq in 2003 did about as well as anyone would do with a full US military attack.  [/quote]

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