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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You should focus on getting a GS-15 position first. [/quote]

Why the requirement is GS-14 to apply for Ses jobs then? The thought process is to make managers eligible for SES positions but I haven't seen anyone jumping directly to SES from GS-14. [/quote]

GS14s are eligible to apply for SES assuming they have the ECQs. My last agency had 82 SES. In the agency’s 50 year history ONLY ONE GS-14 has made the jump to SES without being a 15 first. Basically, it’s extremely rare. Why? Because the vast majority of 14s haven’t  accumulated enough experiences to meet the ECQs—especially the experiences that amount to IMPACT! I was a super high performing and crazy ambitious 14 and even I couldn’t get all the experiences needed at the 14 level. I got some, but needed a couple years as a 15. It all depends on your agency structure and level of responsibility. I imagine there are some places where you could significant and impactful experiences as a 14, but that is few and far between.

I’m generally not a fan of telling people to not rush their career progression. I hated hearing that, lol. As a sitting executive and someone that progressed quickly, I will say that it is important to have enough experience and maturity to be effective. All this to say, I’m glad I ignored mentors who encouraged me to apply to SES as a 14. I had super high quality experiences has a 14, but I didn’t have the full maturity that I do now.  my three years as a 15 proved pivotal. I had so much growth in those years- especially with leading people and building coalitions. I think a minimum of 7 years of management experience is needed before going to SES.

If you don’t buy that argument then consider the money side. As a 14 going to SES you’ll be SES for less than $170k. [/quote]

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