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[quote=Anonymous]Our large breed could hold it overnight long before 6 months.  But he would never sleep in our room as he'd wake us up at 4.

We typically do last walk/pee later at night -- like 10 or 11.  He usually falls asleep at around 9 pm but we wake him up to walk, and then he plays a bit after before going back to bed.

Our dog gets LOTS of exercise -- but he will still wake up at 4 a.m. (especially in the summer) if he can get to us.  Our dog's crate is in the family room.  At 6 months, he was still crated overnight.  He's older now and is not crated overnight, but we leave a baby gate blocking the stairs -- otherwise he will come upstairs between 4 and 6 and start nosing us to wake us up and hang out with him.  We usually get up between 6 and 7 to walk him.  I never understand how people can sleep in a room with their dogs -- that just would not work with ours.

I do agree with your trainer that you'll have to let him cry for at least a couple nights.  It's like sleep training a baby.  I do think (like with a toddler) it makes it worse if they can see you.  Your dog is not a tween yet -- he's more like a preschooler at 6 months.  And if you sleep with a preschooler in your room, yes, they are going to want to wake you up to play or get them a snack at random hours.  If it were me, I would move his crate out of the bedroom.

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