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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am curious, because I am of an Asian descent and when I was applying to universities 15 years I already knew I would not get into any Ivys due to racial discrimination despite near perfect SAT scores and a full stack of AP 5 scores, national merit and EC. Most of my friends were in the same boat, so we said f it, we just go engineering/STEM at a state school, We'll make more.

The case is even more true today than it was 15 years ago. Moreover, most STEM isn't even competitive today due to the mismatch of supply and demand. Outside of maybe chemical engineering and computer science, the average college salary is lower than that of trades. You make more as a carpenter, electrician or heck even general contractor than most college majors, without going into 6 figures worth of debt.

My grandparents were professors, my parents had masters degrees, I only have an undergrad and I am seriously debating if my kids should even go to college at this point. You don't need a CS degree from Stanford to get a good developer job, a year of coding academies is enough in most cases.[/quote]

So much is wrong with your post, but I will limit myself to the misinformation I find most dangerous:

Been in tech 30 years, most hiring programmers.  Coding Academies are no substitute for a strong CS degree.  Not even close.  Don't need to be a "prestigious" one, just rigorous and known.

It's not that you won't get a job - it just that you won't be as good at it and won't advance and have the opportunities the smart CS grads will.  No debate about that.[/quote]

The coding certificates aren't enough and you do need a CS degree but one from an IVY vs. State school makes little difference as its more about knowledge and skill.  My spouse went to a no name college for CS and is doing as well as others from many other schools.

For some professions, like medical, finance and big law, it matters, but for most other professions it doesn't.  No one cares where I went to college and graduate school.  Only I had the degrees and licensure. [/quote]

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