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[quote=TheManWithAUsername][quote=Anonymous]How on earth are you getting a double standard "based in large part on race" when the only two cases considered on this thread have a much more significant difference, in that the gun went off in one of them, and not the other, and someone was actually shot in one of them (albeit shot by himself)?   That's a huge difference in culpability.[/quote]
I don't have an opinion on the race factor here (though it's inarguable that blacks generally get worse sentences), but shouldn't he have gotten a lesser sentence? Being shot in the leg is a pretty big punishment already, especially for him. Just a side point.

[quote=Anonymous]As for defensibility, I wasn't referring to legal defensibility, I think that it is ridiculous as a matter of policy to have mandatory minimums for first-time, non-violent offenses of this nature.   Judges should have more sentencing discretion in such cases.[/quote]
This seems like a perfectly good place for mandatory sentencing. Whether you're carrying your concealed gun b/c you're a scofflaw or because you're an irresponsible gun owner, NYC doesn't want it there. It would obviously be worse is she had been carrying it to kill someone, but there are separate crimes for that. Instead, she's just an idiot, and I might prefer someone craftily keeping their gun. She strikes me as the kind of person who might misplace it or have it stolen.

[quote=Anonymous]she's a tourist and has a better excuse for not knowing the law than a resident[/quote]
If you don't know that NYC is likely to have tougher gun laws than Tennessee, you're too stupid to own a gun. And even if it weren't so obvious, this should be a basic responsibility of gun ownership. You could see this as a green M&Ms situation - if you're irresponsible in this way, it indicates that you generally aren't adequately responsible with your gun.

[quote=Anonymous]she was only caught when she tried to comply with "a no guns allowed" sign[/quote]
Irrelevant to me. The crime is the crime, not the getting caught.

[quote=Anonymous]she doesn't present a significant recidivism risk[/quote]
And THIS is where unconscious racism gets to run wild. Those are just the stats.

The obvious response to this factor is that NYC wants to send a message - one that some people apparently need to hear. If they let her off, what does that tell the other morons?

I would hope that responsible gun owners would see this woman as an embarrassment who deserves what she gets, the way that many dog owners dislike people with untrained dangerous dogs.[/quote]

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