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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes, because girls have to wear girl colors to be girly enough girls. :roll:[/quote]

That wooshing sound?  It's the point going over your head.  [/quote]

OP here. Yes, of course, the clothes don't make the woman( duh) , but we are not talking about a fully developed woman. We are talking about a flat chested little girl with a crew cut. Even the voice is neutral as this is a pre-pubescent child.( no clues there)Out in the world among strangers  most will need to guess the right personal pronoun to use (he or she) with very little to go on and very little time: the visual cues are hair cut, clothes, etc. My question is : why would a parent take this as a sign that her daughter is gay when she has obviously set up all the visual cues herself.

I am not gay , but have some gay friends and always assumed that they would be more open to and more defending of a child's right to be who they are because , I assume, it was difficult for them growing up in a time different than today to come out . I would assume anyone who went through that  would want to support their child whoever they were and not project an identity onto them. After all, this is what most of my gay friends complained happened to them in their less than supportive homes as children. So, I am mystified as to why my friend seems to have a clear preference from day one, dressing her child a certain way and projecting on to her some gender identity conflict that , imho, does not exist apart from the way the child is being "set up" to appear as a boy to others. I have heard my friend use comments like "score one for the team"( lesbian team, I assume) and "breaders" used derogatively towards heteros by my friend and was surprised because, you know, thought gay people would be more open minded in general due to life experience . not less. But don't know. So, I pose the question to this forum assuming there are other two Mom couples out there who have some insight based on more personal experience than I could possibly have as I am not gay. Thanks[/quote]

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