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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]terrible handling, low safety ratings, and worst in class reliability - what's not to love [/quote]

The new ones have better ratings and they handle very well.  Clearly you've never driven a new one.[/quote]

They are better than the old ones, but they are lifted body on frame short wheelbase SUVs- the handling compared to any sedan is going to be terrible. Most unibody suvs will also have much better handling. If you want to go mudding or rock crawling, wrangles are the best tool, otherwise they are worse than just about every other option [/quote]

Again, it depends on if you are getting a Sport, Sahara or Rubicon.  A sport is low to the ground and no different than a regular suv but for the price point for a sport there are so many better options out there.  We have a Rubicon and love it.  I wouldn't buy one for a first car/teen.  The only advantage to a sport is if you modify it yourself.  And, removing the roof is difficult except if you get the new sliding roof, which is awesome but adds a lot more money to it.  We much prefer the wangler handling to our sedan so its personal preference.  And, the handling is far better than my last SUV.[/quote]

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