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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I see so many posts saying that kids with high GPA can’t get into such and such a school.... I have a 9th grader in mcps. Last semester got all As except one B in a core (honors level) course. For spring semester, may end up with a C in that class, or may be able to pull out another B. Am I right to figure that [b]even one B takes Harvard, Yale off the table[/b] for a white kid from MoCo (no racial diversity, no geographic diversity)? And a C would take the next tier of schools off the table? To be clear, I’m not pushing kid to go Ivy but kid got it in their head a few years ago and has been taking about it. I’m just wondering what’s realistic. [/quote] Not really. A C may be unless you're URM. Generally speaking, you need strong GPA to be in the contention, at which point GPA is no longer important.[/quote] URMs with C's don't get an advantage, URM's with A's do.[/quote] I think this is true at top-20 schools generally, not just Harvard and Yale. Although, beyond top 20s, into 20-50, I think it's possible - or maybe used to be possible pre-covid - that a URM with a few Cs could be admitted, if the rest is there - lots of rigor, good test scores, overall UW GPA >3.5 ish at a relatively rigorous private (another can of worms). Or maybe not; we'll find out next month, my kid has this situation and has some reaches on the list. I think there's a continuum. It may be better to reframe the URM advantage in terms of supply and demand. URM are in demand everywhere, and desirable schools like Harvard will be able to attract the most. However, test optional adds a new wrinkle - perhaps the supply just increased quite a bit, which may decrease the individual advantage. With regard to grading issues, for those applying [i]without[/i] scores, some Cs would likely be more detrimental vs those applying test optional with top grades - this just makes sense. What is less clear is how the URM with a few Cs but the rest of the package, including good test scores (which was a small pool), will fare in a new, larger pool of top-grade URMs without scores.[/quote] Let’s talk about white athletes now shall we?[/quote]
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