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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oh, the thing you could accomplish with a turkey baster. Think about it[/quote]

I'm the pp who has used the moise and I also have trauma issues.  It's a lot more comfortable than a turkey baster (which I probably couldn't have even inserted - too fat)  and other syringes (the narrow ones are a bit short).  For me it was worth the extra expense to be gentle and kind to myself and use something more comfortable.   That being said -  yes there are a lot of other tools you could use which are cheaper.  (The moise was also cheaper when I was using it than it is now - look for a discount or sale if you go that route.)

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Thank you pp. Can I ask if anything, what helped you?

The pain is sometimes unbearable. I am reminded of a scene in a movie where the woman had pain and trouble but so much pressure from orthodox family they decided to put a pillow over her a head I think. Or something similar. Anyway. I tell my husband if he can't see me wince just don't look or put a pillow nicer my head he doesn't appreciate it. And I don't mean it to be mean. I am just sad and I feel like we are losing time[/quote]

In terms of the pain with insertion, I ended up doing pelvic floor physical therapy and used dilators (Here I would definitely recommend spending more for the silicone ones versus the hard plastic ones.)  I didn't have a partner so goal was to be able to tolerate all the procedures that come with IVF.   Prior to FET, I also used a self-hypnosis recording and it is the only time in my life I had a pain free speculum insertion.    If pelvic floor PT is hard to access, there are some self-help books that go through exercises to help with vaginismus including exercises with a partner.  (there was a book set that came with my plastic dilators but ended up not using it so can't really comment on whether it would be helpful.)   In terms of getting pregnant, needed IVF for that (but more related to age, fibroid, blocked fallopian tubes, and lack of partner than if I had had vaginismus alone I think.)    [/quote]

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