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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele]That is a headline that you should -- but probably won't -- see coming from our usual Obama haters. As I discussed in this thread:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/100601.page

Obama placed Anwar al-Awlaki, a US citizen, on a list of people who could be captured or killed (essentially authorizing his assassination). Today, a US drone carried out the act. Of course everyone will immediately respond that al-Awlaki is a terrorist and has attacked America and so on. But, if there is so much evidence of al-Awlaki's guilt, why has there been no criminal indictment? Even bin Laden had been indicted.  Think about that. Bin Laden received more due process than this American citizen. Yes, yes, our CIA knows everything. If they say he is guilty, he is guilty. Just like Saddam had WMDs just like the CIA said he did. Let's just accept that the CIA is infallible. In fact, why don't we just do away with our entire justice system and allow Obama and the CIA to run the entire thing?  Also, while we are at it, let's criticize a few more foreign leaders for killing their political opponents. 
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Perhaps, Mr. Steele, this should convince you that the Obama haters, such as myself, are in fact acting based on their principles (which, I acknowledge, you dispute vigorously).  Criticizing Obama for this, if one would not criticize a Republican president for it, would be hypocritical and unfair.  Small wonder many on the right have not made an issue of this, and those that have, such as Ron Paul, are acting consistently with their own articulated principles (in Mr. Paul's case, relatively strict isolationism).

Also, I think it is wrong to call this murder, and due process is not the right frame of reference.  Suppose a U.S. citizen defected during WWII and took up arms for the Germans.  He would have been a legitimate military target and could be killed without any form of due process under U.S. law.  This would also be the case if he were not on the front lines, but serving in the German command as a staff officer working on planning, logistics, etc.  I'm not an expert on Mr. al-Awlaki, but what I have read suggests that he was involved in operational planning of terrorist attacks on U.S. interests.  Those are acts of war under international law--which governs as he is outside of the U.S.--and he is therefore a legitimate military target.  (It is likely a different issue if he were on U.S. soil, or if he was captured by U.S forces.)

Obviously if the Administration is lying about all this, it's a different issue.  But what do you really think?  If he were out there setting up IEDs in Afganistan, you'd argue the U.S. could not take him out without a grand jury subpoena and an attempt to capture him?  That's nonsensical.  [/quote]

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