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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'll stop calling it class warfare when you stop calling the murder of innocent lives "pro choice". [/quote]

Sure, but a fetus in the first two trimesters isn't "a life".  So it's not "murder", and neither is a fetus in any sense "innocent".  So you'll need to stop using the term "pro-life" and use "forced pregnancy advocate".[/quote]

Forcibly taking money from high income earners to fund failed programs (stimulus) and new boondogles (Obamacare) and then branding the people who don't want to give up their money as evil is class warfare. [/quote]

Just two quick thoughts:  first, stimulus failed because it was sabotaged by the austerity crowd.  Advocates of stimulus recommended a stimulus of $1.2 trillion dollars of spending.  The Obama administration pushed an $800 billion dollar stimulus

Since it's pretty clear you've never been exposed to the barest outline of what actually happened over the last 3-4 years, and it's unlikely you'll start anytime soon I'll post to a link to one of the main stimulus advocates deriding the fake "stimulus" in 2009 (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/opinion/13krugman.html):

[quote]The story of Keynesian economists and the Obama stimulus, as anyone who’s been reading me knows, runs as follows: When information about the planned stimulus began emerging, those of us who took our macro seriously warned, often and strenuously, that it was far short of what was needed — that given what we already knew about the likely depth of the slump, the plan would fill only a fraction of the hole. Worse yet, I in particular argued, the plan would probably be seen as a failure, making another round impossible.

But never mind. What we keep hearing instead is a narrative that runs like this: “Keynesians said that the stimulus would solve the problems, then when it didn’t, instead of admitting they were wrong, they came back and said it wasn’t big enough. Heh heh heh.” That’s their story, and they’re sticking to it, never mind the facts.

And what the facts say is that Keynesian policy didn’t fail, because it wasn’t tried. The only real tests we’ve had of Keynesian economics were the prediction that large budget deficits in a depressed economy wouldn’t drive up interest rates, and the prediction that austerity in depressed economies would deepen their depression. How do you think that turned out?[/quote]

As far as the boondoggle that is Obamacare--perhaps it was more palatable when it was Romneycare?  In any case, it's expected to save money, not cost money, as evaluated by the CBO.  Just to enlighten you, generally speaking a "boondoggle" is something that *costs* money, not its opposite.

And finally, who gives a fuck whether you want to pay your taxes or not, you narcissistic twat?  That's one of the core responsibilities of living in the United States.  Just because the GOP has been able to distract a lot of angry poor people from the fact that they're getting fucked over by pitting elderly white people against "everyone else" ("I want my country back!!") doesn't mean that they'll be successful forever.  At some point in the somewhat near future, those old folks are going to be dead, and the 95% of the country that's been getting the shaft is going to be coming after the money--either with pitchforks or with an adjustment to marginal tax rates.[/quote]

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