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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Depends on whether I get Canada's outcomes measures with that. Or Germany's, or New Zealand's. [/quote]

This is an excellent point, one ignored by anybody advocating for any of this.  Let's take Japan, as an example.  They have health care for all.  They also have a system where if you have cancer with a low percentage of success in curing, you get a kiss on the forehead and you go home to die.  Dental care is another basket of insanity over there.  And, yes, I know.  I have lived there and work with Japanese companies all the time.

Of course, our system would never work that way.  Only the best of palliative care, regardless of condition!  That won't work, and is unsustainable.  You want BASIC health care for all, that could only work if it is limited.  Want something better, get yourself into a position to have health care provided as part of your compensation.  Its not that hard, despite what everybody wants to say about how horrible america is, particularly now with millions of jobs unfilled, all of which provide health insurance, because people won't show up sober for more than a few days in a row.  [/quote]

Yeah, I'm talking outcomes data for specific countries, not whatever unsourced story you want to tell (true or not) about a totally different country.

Try to keep up.[/quote]

I am keeping up, and you obviously can't dispute that whatever basic system would be proposed would be wildly too expensive and too expansive.  But OK, let's just expand the state forever to replace actual economic production.  That works great with a decent percentage of the population that already isn't productive.  That sounds like a great idea!  [/quote]

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