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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Your perceptions of the value are less important than that of future employers who will be deciding whether or not to hire your child.

Companies may not be impressed with status, but they do want educated kids, who have some practical skills. [/quote]

Do they actually get educated kids out of college these days? I am skeptical.[/quote]

Well, that depends.  If you are asking if kids coming out of reputable (say top 50-60) engineering and CS have skills employers want, the definitely do.

So do kids who do, for example, biology, chemistry, physics, geoscience, climate science, etc at a Top 50 national U or a top 50 SLAC. They are well prepared for grad school— med school, PA school, masters and phD programs. .

Strong 4 and 5 year business, nursing, architecture, accounting, teaching and  clinical social work degrees can get jobs easily  out of college or get a masters and be set to do well in the job market.

Community college vocational programs do well preparing kids for vocational/ technical jobs that don’t need a degree.

As a county, we need to move towards more direct admit 6 year med school and 5 year law school programs. There is no reason to pay for the extra two years of college.

Now, is a kid at third tier college with an anthropology undergrad degree going to be employable?  Probably not.

And Harvard/ Ivy admissions is nuts and somewhat rigged. Small ,#elective LACs look at “building a class,” because they only take 400 kids.  So, the process is obtuse.  But, most kids go to bigger, state universities, where the GPA/ SAT requirements to get in are much more transparent and things like essays and recs play very little role. Send your in state kid to VT or VCU or UVA— Naviance shows pretty clear what the cut offs are and the admissions process should not be surprising or opaque.  Have them get a marketable degree, like nursing, teaching, accounting, pre-med, for a reasonable price, instate tuition. Only send them to a grad school program with an excellent outplacement track record (not a PhD in English).  There is no problem with 2 years at NOVA and transferring 2 years to a VA state school.

Almost every practical path to a UMC life style runs through a 4 year college degree. Some exceptions, sure. But most need the degree.

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