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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Thank you for this.  [/quote]

No problem. We lived this experience with two boys at one of these schools you mentioned, who were both recruited hard by Ivies and by other schools that use a version of it (Williams and Amherst)

The Academic Index looks at two numbers; SAT scores and Class Rank.

So there's not much maneuvering you can do on it. You either have the scores and rank or you don't. (One might think that it would be easier to have a higher class rank at St John's than at Prep or Gonzaga.)

The Academic Index scores required by the Ivies vary by Ivy League School. The requirements are higher at Harvard, Yale and Princeton than they are at Penn. That's because, on average, the SAT scores at H-Y-P are higher than at Penn.

When all the Athletic Recruits are counted the distribution of AI scores for Athletes has to mirror the Academic Index scores for all the freshman class that is admitted.

The Academic Index is broken down into bands or tiers. I think there are five of them. The schools normally only get to admit so many in the lower tiers and these are almost always football and basketball players.

They offset this by getting in tennis players, and volleyballers and swimmers, etc with above average Academic Index scores. All the athletes have to average out to he same Academic Index scores of the entire class.

You can get a copy of the Academic Index on the Ivy League web site.

Both our boys chose not to go to Ivy League schools. They attended very-highly regarded Catholic universities instead.

One other point. I wouldn't call college recruiting "dirty". but there's a fair amount of mis-representation that goes on and amazingly especially by the Ivy League schools.

With schools that offer scholarships, there is no doubt about a school's real interest. But, with the Ivies and some others there's no way to really understand just how badly they want your son and whether they might be willing to use one of the valuable slots they have on the lower tiers of the Academic Index.

If you are in the upper tiers of the AI, relax. They are going to want you badly so they can offset the kids they want in the lower tiers.

Totally agree I will add that the Ivys focus only in core sports such us basketball ,football etc

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