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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My brothers went there for engineering.  I guess it was a good enough school, and I am jealous of my student loan free brothers, but I wouldn't have been happy at Pitt.  It had a gritty, almost ghetto feel that I didn't like.

But I went to an "Ivy" and was a bookish kid who hated the gregarious fratty types that seemed to swarm my brothers' dorms and the Pitt campus.  I once overheard one of my college profs advising a student about where to apply for grad school, and he responded to the student's suggestion of Pitt by dismissing it as a "working class school in a place no one wants to go, but that's what makes it affordable."  I concur, but didn't share this with my brothers.

My brothers have great careers now and both make a lot more money than I do, so presumably the engineering department is fine.  [/quote]

What are you talking about?  Pitt has changed a lot since I went 20 years ago.  It was a nice campus then.  Sections where there was private housing was not that great nor were the areas with the frats but it was by no means ghetto, unsafe or bad.  Pitt is huge and only a small part is Greek.  I was never Greek nor were most of my friends. I only went to a handful of fraternity parties and most were with my dad when he visited his fraternity.   The only negative is you can only get housing for a few years and then have to go off campus.  My friend and I senior year had a really nice 2 bedroom apartment.  It is far from working class.  It wasn't cheap out of state and they attract a lot of kids from MD and other local states.  They are well ranked for many majors.  You sound like a huge snob.[/quote]

I am a huge snob, probably.  So?  That doesn't change Pitt's caliber.  But the difference between the average Pitt student I met while visiting the campus and staying with my brothers or high school friend and the average student I knew at Harvard was immense.  By "fratty", I mean the type of person who is boorish and clearly not smart.  There was an immaturity and lack of social grace that was prevalent, though of course not applicable to every Pitt student I met (and I met a lot).  One of my brothers had something called a "cathedral suite", I believe, which he "won" in a housing lottery, and this was regarded as luxury housing by Pitt students...but the Pitt campus was tatty and ugly compared to my school, and the schools of my other friends.  The "nice" Pitt dorms I saw were OK, but they were only "nice" compared to other Pitt dorms and the Pitt campus.  This was in the early 2000s: I doubt the student body has changed that much, and the campus certainly has not.

As I said, my brothers did fine for themselves, and they loved Pitt, but you are delusional if you think it is a "nice campus."  Or you haven't visited really good schools with beautiful campuses.  Pitt is OK.  [/quote]

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