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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have issues with non-binary and subject verb agreement. I have read Judith Butler and understand the argument but the grammarian in me can't do it. Language is limiting but we need to come up with new pronouns.[/quote] THIS!! They/them is grammatically incongruous with he/she or him/her. They/them are plural. A better equivalent would be "it" but that seems horribly de-humanizing. What about "shim" or "sher" instead? Identify however you want, people, but PLEASE don't require everyone to overlook basic grammar to avoid being offensive. [/quote] I'm the PP who responded first in this topic, saying "just use they/them/their" if that's what your friend wants, and there shouldn't be a problem with people trying to clarify gender. I'm also a huge grammar nerd, so it took me a while to come around to using "they" as a singular pronoun. If you're anything like me (and if you're a grammar nerd, you are), you'll find this conversation about how style guides have adapted to be really interesting: http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/gender-neutral-pronouns-singular-they Here's the thing. English is a living language. It changes and adapts to fit the needs of its speakers. People used "they" as a singular all the way back in the 16th century. Shakespeare and Jane Austen used it. (http://www.pemberley.com/janeinfo/austheir.html) It's much easier to use words that already exist than to make up new ones like "shim" and "sher," even putting aside the fact that "shim" and "shemale" have been used as a derogatory slur for transgender people and cross-dressers for decades. Tl;dr: there is lots of literary and historical precedent for using "they/them/their" as singular.[/quote]
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