NCS Matriculation & Other information stats

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[Post New]02/01/2010 12:15
Anonymous
I just posted this on another thread. But didn't want it to get lost amid the numerous posts.

NCS Stats: The following information is taken from the school's website under college counseling - college handbook. p. 82-83.

https://www.ncs.cathedral.org/podium/default.aspx?t=133043

Please note these pages have a lot more details provided than what I am listing below.

2009: 78 students in class of 2009. 2 National Merit Scholars. 7 Finalists. 28 Commended.

College Matriculation List. Four or more graduates from the Classes of 2005-2009 have matriculated at:
Stanford University - 18
University of Pennsylvania (15)
University of Virginia (14)
Princeton University (13)
Wesleyan University (12)
Columbia University (11)
Dartmouth College (11)
Duke University (11)
Yale University (11)
Georgetown University (9)
Brown University - 8
University of Chicago (7)
Colby College (7)
Colgate College (7)
Tufts University (7)
Boston College (6)
Bowdoin College (6)
Dickinson College (6)
Harvard College (6)
NorthWestern University (6)
Trinity College (6)
Vanderbilt University (6)
Amherst College (5)
Carnegie Mellon University (5)
Haverford College (6)
Kenyon College (5)
University of Michigan (5)
NYU (5)
University of North Carolina (5)
Tulane University (5)
University of Vermont (5)
College of William and Mary (5)
University of Edinburgh (4)
Indiana University at Bloomington (4)
University of Maryland (4)
Middlebury College (4)
Oberlin College (4)
University of Oxford (4)
Pomona College (4)
University of South Carolina (4)


At least 104 students matriculated at Ivies (plus Stanford/MIT). Assuming there were 78 students in each of the last five years (which is probably a little high as I heard that 75 was the common number) then the overall average number of students per year who went to an Ivy (plus Stanford/MIT) would be at least 26.67% of the graduates attended these top tier universities.

Note: Although I included MIT as a top school, there were less than 4 students who matriculated there in the past 5 years (list does not include universities where less than 5 graduates attended). Please keep in mind there may have been up to 3 students who attended MIT.

No matter how you look at it. These are VERY strong numbers.
[Post New]02/01/2010 13:01
Anonymous
Sheesh! You people are really disturbing. No sense of humility.
[Post New]02/01/2010 13:04
Anonymous
GW
[Post New]02/01/2010 13:34
Anonymous
And the point of posting this is?
[Post New]02/01/2010 16:06
Anonymous
OP here. I posted this because many posters have specifically asked for stats from different schools and I found this data on their website. There is a lot more details on the school website. FYI. I do not have a child at NCS and am aware there are MANY strong schools in this area.

Secondly, not only does this information support strong ivy entries (an average of over 25% Ivybound is impressive), but the data also clearly shows that students who are middle of the class are gaining entry and attending extremely competitive Universities.

[Post New]02/01/2010 16:16
Anonymous
The last time the WSJ did a survey about college app. success was 2 years ago. The schools in this area who had the best college stats in the order they were listed:
Holton-Arms, Thomas Jefferson, Sidwell & then NCS. So, you seem to be a NCS booster since that is the school you picked (which was only 4th best in this area).
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-COLLEGE0711-sort.html
[Post New]02/01/2010 16:45
Anonymous
Impressive, but you have to read these statistics carefully. What percentage of those kids were admitted to an Ivy where one or both of their parents also attended? That's a huge bump in the admissions process and I'm sure NCS parents are pedigreed themselves. I attended an elite prep school and finished toward top of my class with test scores, etc. but watched kids in the middle/bottom of my class get accpeted to Yale, Harvard and Princeton ahead of me - mommy/daddy went there. I ended up OK, but the admissions numbers are skewed positively for schools like NCS and others as a result.
[Post New]02/01/2010 16:49
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The last time the WSJ did a survey about college app. success was 2 years ago. The schools in this area who had the best college stats in the order they were listed:
Holton-Arms, Thomas Jefferson, Sidwell & then NCS. So, you seem to be a NCS booster since that is the school you picked (which was only 4th best in this area).
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-COLLEGE0711-sort.html


Not PP. But the WSJ article was not limited to Ivy + MIT + Stanford. There were lots of other universities included in the mix for the WSJ rankings which boosted the stats for some schools. TJ would likely still be listed high followed by NCS but I doubt Sidwell or Holton would hold in the rankings. Not an NCS booster but would send my daughter there in a heartbeat over the other schools if given the chance.
[Post New]02/01/2010 17:04
Anonymous
There are some serious NCS boosters on lately. Is it constantly falling short to STA that makes you like this?
[Post New]02/01/2010 17:17
Anonymous
I agree pp. NCS is fine, but there are better schools and schools that obviously have better college stats.
[Post New]02/01/2010 17:56
Anonymous
You folks will just have to check out http://www.matriculationstats.org once I get local DC schools analyzed. Unfortunately, unless some insider (hint, hint) provides me with useful St. Alban's, Sidwell or Georgetown data, I'm not going to be able to include them.

And in case anybody around here is the least suspicious, I've been clearly identifying myself in every post I've made on this discussion forum. Also, I'm not making any real money from the site. I do have Google ads on it because my 8th grade son who did all the webmaster stuff insisted on it, but we've made a grand total of $8 so far (less than the site costs, of course). I'm doing because it interests me and because it's a shared project with my son.
[Post New]02/01/2010 18:39
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The last time the WSJ did a survey about college app. success was 2 years ago. The schools in this area who had the best college stats in the order they were listed:
Holton-Arms, Thomas Jefferson, Sidwell & then NCS. So, you seem to be a NCS booster since that is the school you picked (which was only 4th best in this area).
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-COLLEGE0711-sort.html


Not the previous pp, but your use of this table is unjustified. To say that one school is better than another because it sent 8, rather than 6, kids in one year to one of 8 colleges, chosen in part by because they publish the data in their yearbooks, just does not make any sense statistically. It is meaningless, an example of the innumeracy we are all trying to ensure that our children overcome by sending them to good schools.
[Post New]02/01/2010 18:59
MatriculationStats
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The last time the WSJ did a survey about college app. success was 2 years ago. The schools in this area who had the best college stats in the order they were listed:
Holton-Arms, Thomas Jefferson, Sidwell & then NCS. So, you seem to be a NCS booster since that is the school you picked (which was only 4th best in this area).
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-COLLEGE0711-sort.html


Not the previous pp, but your use of this table is unjustified. To say that one school is better than another because it sent 8, rather than 6, kids in one year to one of 8 colleges, chosen in part by because they publish the data in their yearbooks, just does not make any sense statistically. It is meaningless, an example of the innumeracy we are all trying to ensure that our children overcome by sending them to good schools.


Ok, I got tired of having to re-identify myself every post. This is the guy with the matriculation stats website, in case it wasn't obvious.

I agree absolutely that the methodology in that WSJ article was ridiculous. Just too many unsupported, random choices were made. It's difficult enough to determine what conclusions you can draw from information like matriculation statistics when used properly, but when they are used improperly, you're deep into Mark Twain quotation territory.
[Post New]02/01/2010 22:21
Anonymous
What -- you think you're the expert pp? I would trust the WSJ over some anonymous booster anyday of the week.
[Post New]02/01/2010 22:25
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What -- you think you're the expert pp? I would trust the WSJ over some anonymous booster anyday of the week.

Sounds like you're the booster.
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