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Anonymous wrote:Please find on the list of the SPLC's hate groups a group which opposes gay marriage only.

Here's a few groups the SPLC lists that are not racist hate groups
1. Alliance Defending Freedom
2. American Family Associatiob
3. Family ResearcbCouncil
4. Traditional Values Coalition

Ok. Four out of how many? You are missing the point.

Strain the brain. Think critically for once.

Those are just a few I got from a quick skim. There are probably many more. I agree that most of the groups they list are hate groups. But when they put these groups and Ben Carson on the list, it makes their Leftist agenda clear. I don't take them seriously

They don't call them "hate groups". They call them extremist groups. I think the writeup about these organizations appear to be fairly accurate. Do you disagree?

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Anonymous wrote:Free speech doesn't mean what you think it means in liberal America.

The thought police determine what positions you can publicly espouse. If you say something they don't agree with, you should be banished to the land west of I-81 and east of I-5.

Who is policing Spencer's thoughts? His personal, private thoughts are his right - but others have the right to counter them, especially when your thoughts and public actions threaten them.

Furthermore, "freedom of speech" does not mean freedom from consequences. There are limits on Freedom of Speech" for the protections of fellow Americans - ie, hate speech.

It's sad how many Americans don't understand their own country.

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Anonymous wrote:Please find on the list of the SPLC's hate groups a group which opposes gay marriage only.

Here's a few groups the SPLC lists that are not racist hate groups
1. Alliance Defending Freedom
2. American Family Association
3. Family Research Council
4. Traditional Values Coalition

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please find on the list of the SPLC's hate groups a group which opposes gay marriage only.

Here's a few groups the SPLC lists that are not racist hate groups
1. Alliance Defending Freedom
2. American Family Association
3. Family Research Council
4. Traditional Values Coalition

Stop moving the goalposts. First of all, the SPLC tracks many kinds of hate groups, not just "racist hate groups." Secondly, I asked for groups that only oppose gay marriage, since YOU said "they call any group that doesn't support gay marriage a "hate group." The groups you listed do not limit their lobbying activities to opposing gay marriage. They also are against gays being able to adopt, foster, lead groups in their communities. They use their influence to try to keep laws on the books that allow businesses to fire people just for being gay, or discriminate against customers who are gay.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please find on the list of the SPLC's hate groups a group which opposes gay marriage only.

Here's a few groups the SPLC lists that are not racist hate groups
1. Alliance Defending Freedom
2. American Family Association
3. Family Research Council
4. Traditional Values Coalition

Stop moving the goalposts. First of all, the SPLC tracks many kinds of hate groups, not just "racist hate groups." Secondly, I asked for groups that only oppose gay marriage, since YOU said "they call any group that doesn't support gay marriage a "hate group." The groups you listed do not limit their lobbying activities to opposing gay marriage. They also are against gays being able to adopt, foster, lead groups in their communities. They use their influence to try to keep laws on the books that allow businesses to fire people just for being gay, or discriminate against customers who are gay.

I don't consider those positions hateful. I'm not getting into a homosexuality debate here

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please find on the list of the SPLC's hate groups a group which opposes gay marriage only.

Here's a few groups the SPLC lists that are not racist hate groups
1. Alliance Defending Freedom
2. American Family Association
3. Family Research Council
4. Traditional Values Coalition

Stop moving the goalposts. First of all, the SPLC tracks many kinds of hate groups, not just "racist hate groups." Secondly, I asked for groups that only oppose gay marriage, since YOU said "they call any group that doesn't support gay marriage a "hate group." The groups you listed do not limit their lobbying activities to opposing gay marriage. They also are against gays being able to adopt, foster, lead groups in their communities. They use their influence to try to keep laws on the books that allow businesses to fire people just for being gay, or discriminate against customers who are gay.

I don't consider those positions hateful. I'm not getting into a homosexuality debate here

Anonymous wrote:The kid is racist and homophobic. Not to mention brainwashed

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I've said it several times. I am NOT a fan of this guy. I just don't like the way the gym handled this.

I don't know what it is you want people to say here. OK, so you don't like the way they handled it. That's fine. You are free to feel that way. The rest of us don't feel that way, and we can all agree to disagree. If you are a member of that gym you can also tell management this very thing. I'm thinking however, that you wouldn't have the balls to do that.

Great. I just don't like it when certain posters say I have "underdeveloped brains" because of my views. Be civil please. I know I haven't been civil in past threads(especially the early ones) but y'all are quite a bit older than I am.

I am not one of the posters who said you had an underdeveloped brain, but I think it was said because of your age, not because of your views.

And, I noticed you never acknowledged my post A) telling you that this is a private club, and B) asking you if you support the "religious freedom" that businesses say they have to discriminate against anyone they don't like.

A private club can do whatever it wants. I don't disagree there. I just don't like the way they handled it. I'm not saying people should sue them. I do support the bakers who don't want to bake cakes for gay weddings. If we're going to have freedom, let's apply it to everybody. The gym can kick our Spencer, but stop suing bakers who don't want to bake cakes for gays, and stop complaining about all-male country clubs.

OK, so if you think a business can discriminate against people whose sexual orientation they don't like, why are you bitching and moaning about a business that discriminated against a person whose ideologies it didn't like? Nazis are not a protected class.

Not moaning about it. I just wish they had a spine. Keep both or kick both out. I'm not saying they don't have the right to do what they did. I just disagree with what they did.

He was kicked out. Business decision. Hostile work environment to minority's working there. Think of the guy quietly showing up in kkk hood.

But he wasn't in a KKK hood. That would've been different.

His public persona... is the hood.


“Our dream is a new society, an ethno-state that would be a gathering point for all Europeans. It would be a new society based on very different ideals than, say, the Declaration of Independence."

– Quoted by Vice, October 2013

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please find on the list of the SPLC's hate groups a group which opposes gay marriage only.

Here's a few groups the SPLC lists that are not racist hate groups
1. Alliance Defending Freedom
2. American Family Association
3. Family Research Council
4. Traditional Values Coalition

Stop moving the goalposts. First of all, the SPLC tracks many kinds of hate groups, not just "racist hate groups." Secondly, I asked for groups that only oppose gay marriage, since YOU said "they call any group that doesn't support gay marriage a "hate group." The groups you listed do not limit their lobbying activities to opposing gay marriage. They also are against gays being able to adopt, foster, lead groups in their communities. They use their influence to try to keep laws on the books that allow businesses to fire people just for being gay, or discriminate against customers who are gay.

I don't consider those positions hateful. I'm not getting into a homosexuality debate here