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I've said it several times. I am NOT a fan of this guy. I just don't like the way the gym handled this.

I don't know what it is you want people to say here. OK, so you don't like the way they handled it. That's fine. You are free to feel that way. The rest of us don't feel that way, and we can all agree to disagree. If you are a member of that gym you can also tell management this very thing. I'm thinking however, that you wouldn't have the balls to do that.

Great. I just don't like it when certain posters say I have "underdeveloped brains" because of my views. Be civil please. I know I haven't been civil in past threads(especially the early ones) but y'all are quite a bit older than I am.

Google it. As a teen (even into early 20s) your prefrontal cortex is not fully formed. Impacts logic. Teens see things in black and white

https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/teenage-brain

Also this

https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/teenage-brain

Point taken, but I don't think that's what that particular poster meant. Why would someone say something like that unless he meant it in a snide way?

I said it and it is exactly what I meant. You are not mature enough - brain and experience- it shows in your blind parroting of alt right ideaology.

If you say so

Not just me. Research. Teens are vulnerable to radicalization...

The Southern Poverty Law Center estimates that there are currently 784 known hate groups operating in the United States alone, a 30% increase since 2000. When one considers that the Internet is world wide, the potential for online hate is staggering. Because of an immature self-identity and limited experience and problem solving skills, youth are particularly susceptible to influence and are the most common perpetrators of hate crimes.
https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/white-supremacists-isis-whos-seducing-teen-online-wcz/

The SPLC is a joke. They call virtually every Right-wing group a "hate group" I agree with Dr. Thomas Flemings statement about the SPLC.

"It is an easy trick of propaganda to portray all natural affections in the dark colors of prejudice. Why would anyone like the South if it were not for slavery and Jim Crow? Who but an antisemite objects to the slaughter of the (semitic) Palestinians? Only a communist or a Jew would oppose the Führer. . . .
The average American does have a conservative heart, but his mind has been so addled by bad teachers, bad books, and bad ideas that he often feels guilty if he prefers to limit his charity to his neighbors, if he resents the money squandered on public schools, if he does not share in the general glee over the massive immigration that is transforming the country of his fathers into something he cannot recognize. He is easily intimidated when the left condemns this vague, inchoate mixture of family loyalty and patriotism as the bigotry of the “extreme right.” In fact, the ultraleft Southern Poverty Law Center is always railing against “right-wing extremism,” by which they mean everyone to the right of the ''The New Republic—up to and including Matthew Hale. . . .

Why should any conservative care if he is attacked by the leftists of the SPLC and ADL or those of the New York Times? These people have lies in their mouths, blood on their hands for the great genocides of the 20th century, and guilt on their consciences for the seduction of the innocent and the destruction of our civilization. Our task, as our late friend Mel Bradford put it, is to remember who we are and stop our ears against the siren songs of the revolutionists, which have proved to be not the anthems of a new dawn but a message of hate and filth that leads to destruction."
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They have been using the same metric for a long time.

https://www.google.com/amp/fox6now.com/2017/02/15/anti-muslim-hate-groups-tripled-across-the-u-s-in-2016-tmwsp/amp/

Since 1999, the SPLC’s “Hate Map” has tracked the growth of hate entities in the U.S., which grew from a total of 457 in its first reporting year to 917 now. Groups chronicled in the report range from black separatist to anti-LGBT, anti-Muslim, and Holocaust denial groups, anti-government fringe movements, and white nationalists.

But 2011 saw the highest number of extremist groups operating in the country, at 1,018. Wednesday’s latest figures are just 101 shy of that number.

They put Ben Carson on a list of extremists. They call any group that doesn't support gay marriage a "hate group" I don't take them seriously. Dr. Fleming was spot on with his criticism. I respect his opinion a lot more than the SPLCs.

Anonymous wrote:Paleo, it is nice that you are questioning this decision by the gym and engaging in a civil discussion on the issue. I think you might find it interesting to investigate the most recent SCOTUS decisions and following case law such as Hobby Lobby and the Materpiece Cakeshop cases plus the cases and 14th Amendment cases for the civil rights era.

In this case, it seems to me that the gym made an economic decision driven by what it deemed were its local market forces. In other words, the owners of the gym anticipated a negative reaction for the majority of its members to Mr. Spencer's presence in the gym, possibly including a boycott or similar actio. That would affect their bottom line. Gyms like this one run on pretty slim margins so this would not be a small consideration. Mr. Spencer is not a protected class and he is not exercising any right such as the right to free speech, practice of religion, etc. when he is using the gym. So the gym is within their rights to reuse him service. It is the market at work in a way.

If you read more primary sources and historical treatment of these issues rather than the derivative sources you have named so far, your arguments will be more credible and you will actually gain greater understanding.

Good luck at school. Come back in a few years so we can see if you have moved beyond quoting tertiary sources.

Anonymous wrote:Wow libs! Your hate is worse than Isis.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow libs! Your hate is worse than Isis.

So, you conservatives love racism? Yes, we hate racists. I will proudly state that from the rooftops. Will you proudly state that you are ok with racists?

Anonymous wrote:https://www.thoughtco.com/hate-speech-cases-721215

Anonymous wrote:Please find on the list of the SPLC's hate groups a group which opposes gay marriage only.

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Anonymous wrote:Please find on the list of the SPLC's hate groups a group which opposes gay marriage only.

Here's a few groups the SPLC lists that are not racist hate groups
1. Alliance Defending Freedom
2. American Family Associatiob
3. Family ResearcbCouncil
4. Traditional Values Coalition

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Anonymous wrote:Wow libs! Your hate is worse than Isis.

So, you conservatives love racism? Yes, we hate racists. I will proudly state that from the rooftops. Will you proudly state that you are ok with racists?

Sure. You got me. We hate racism. Supremacists. Etc. why not?

white su·prem·a·cy
noun
noun: white supremacy; plural noun: white supremacies
the belief that white people are superior to those of all other races, especially the black race, and should therefore dominate society.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.thoughtco.com/hate-speech-cases-721215

What's your point? No one has arrested Richard Spencer. For the 585th time, freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequences of your speech.

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Anonymous wrote:Please find on the list of the SPLC's hate groups a group which opposes gay marriage only.

Here's a few groups the SPLC lists that are not racist hate groups
1. Alliance Defending Freedom
2. American Family Associatiob
3. Family ResearcbCouncil
4. Traditional Values Coalition

Ok. Four out of how many? You are missing the point.

Strain the brain. Think critically for once.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow libs! Your hate is worse than Isis.

So, you conservatives love racism? Yes, we hate racists. I will proudly state that from the rooftops. Will you proudly state that you are ok with racists?

Sure. You got me. We hate racism. Supremacists. Etc. why not?

white su·prem·a·cy
noun
noun: white supremacy; plural noun: white supremacies
the belief that white people are superior to those of all other races, especially the black race, and should therefore dominate society.

well, you seem to think it's wrong for libs to hate racists. So..

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Anonymous wrote:Please find on the list of the SPLC's hate groups a group which opposes gay marriage only.

Here's a few groups the SPLC lists that are not racist hate groups
1. Alliance Defending Freedom
2. American Family Associatiob
3. Family ResearcbCouncil
4. Traditional Values Coalition

Ok. Four out of how many? You are missing the point.

Strain the brain. Think critically for once.

Those are just a few I got from a quick skim. There are probably many more. I agree that most of the groups they list are hate groups. But when they put these groups and Ben Carson on the list, it makes their Leftist agenda clear. I don't take them seriously

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Please find on the list of the SPLC's hate groups a group which opposes gay marriage only.

Here's a few groups the SPLC lists that are not racist hate groups
1. Alliance Defending Freedom
2. American Family Associatiob
3. Family ResearcbCouncil
4. Traditional Values Coalition

Ok. Four out of how many? You are missing the point.

Strain the brain. Think critically for once.

Those are just a few I got from a quick skim. There are probably many more. I agree that most of the groups they list are hate groups. But when they put these groups and Ben Carson on the list, it makes their Leftist agenda clear. I don't take them seriously

The point is that teens like yourself are easily recruited and indoctrinated by the groups

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Please find on the list of the SPLC's hate groups a group which opposes gay marriage only.

Here's a few groups the SPLC lists that are not racist hate groups
1. Alliance Defending Freedom
2. American Family Associatiob
3. Family ResearcbCouncil
4. Traditional Values Coalition

Ok. Four out of how many? You are missing the point.

Strain the brain. Think critically for once.

Those are just a few I got from a quick skim. There are probably many more. I agree that most of the groups they list are hate groups. But when they put these groups and Ben Carson on the list, it makes their Leftist agenda clear. I don't take them seriously