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I felt that way, too, at first. But as I watch everything he does now, I'm convinced he truly has narcissistic personality disorder. So does my brother. And I've watched my brother lure women in with magnificent charm, wrap them fast in a mantle (usually financial) that they can't escape very easily, and then completely rage and psychologically tear them down until they are an utterly empty shell with no will. It's terrifying to watch. And he does it over and over and over. Trump is so like my brother, it terrifies me (on many levels). If I'm right, Melania doesn't have the will to leave. |
Karen McDougal, a Playboy playmate. Way to go dude! |
I'm married to a man like your brother. All you say isn't true. |
Well, it's certainly true about my brother. Which part isn't true for you? |
You are judging her too harshly. She probably married him for money. But that does not mean that money is the only thing she cares about. I think she, like many other people, assume that if someone is smart enough to make that much money, they cannot be that bad(ask my mother, a highly educated bread winner in her own family). And this election has probably shaken that assumption for Melania. If you look at older videos of her, she is comfortable and optimistic. These days she seems very withdrawn. If money and fame were all she cared about, she will look even happier because her husband is now the #1 guy in the world. It seems to me that she is just coming to terms with how bad the guy is. |
I think she does not care if he cheats on her. But the campaign has really shaken her, and I think she really cares about some of the stuff he's said. |
Well, he's currently being sued by one of the women he groped, so yes, it is our business. Keep in mind that republicans passed legislation during the Clinton years that prevents a prevents a president from delaying sexual assault suits until he's out of office. This trial will play out during the Trump presidency and given his tendency to lie I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in serious trouble for perjury. The woman filing the suit, summer zervos says she will drop the suit if trump admits what he did. It should be interesting. I really hope all the women he harassed bring law suits against him! |
#freemelania |
And germs |
I think she wanted the money, but not the fame and her unhappiness comes from being thrust in the spotlight. I don't think she cares so much if he cheats on her. In fact, she probably prefers him sleeping with other women than pestering her about sex. |
| Don't feel bad for her. They both used each other, and got what they deserved. No love in their life. |
| Without a doubt. |
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These concerns are, let's put it politely, middle class concerns.
The very rich are different from you and me. Infidelity is not so much a concern at that level. Not saying it doesn't matter for some couples but for many of the very privileged it just is not something they obsess over (JFK and FDR come to mind, both came from very wealthy families and both regularly cheated on their wives and in FDR's case, had a long standing mistress). Melania Trump probably didn't expect the Donald to be faithful to her. What mattered was that she was Mrs. Donald Trump and that carried weight and status, and of course, all the wealth behind the Trump name. She popped out a child as soon as possible because nothing cements her status as much as a legitimate offspring. In watching the Trumps at the inauguration it occurred to me that the Trumps have a very aristocratic relationship and ways of doing things. No, I'm not talking about faded gentility aristocrats withering away in their shabby castles with little left other than fine manners, but the actual aristocrats of 17th, 18th and 19th century Europe. The bigger than life egoistical husband, the impeccable wife who displays no emotions whatsoever in public and never puts forward a wrong step. The marriage is just as much a public facade as it is anything else. Both partners are playing a role in the public gaze. Even the Trumps' bling bling apartment is little different from the gilded bling bling the aristocracy surrounded themselves with. This does not mean that the Trumps aren't capable of having affections for each other. I actually think they do. In their way. But it is not the relationship that the Obamas had, or George and Laura Bush, or the Reagans. The Clintons probably come closest with Hillary's tolerance of Bill's multiple infidelities in exchange for the status and access provided as Mrs. Bill Clinton and wife of first a governor, then later a president. |
| This threads seems to have been addressed sufficiently and further discussion probably belongs in the Political Forum. |