What is the appeal of working in admissions?

Anonymous
I would have loved feedback too. My DS was turned down from a school we thought would be a terrific fit. He is now at a different school and we are happy but I would still like to know. Perhaps it would help me understand and also see him more clearly - hard to evaulate your kids when they are your kids!
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they enjoy connecting the students they feel would be the best fit to the school. I imagine having to turn people down and deal with inquiries about the rejection is unpleasant. However, it may be assumed (although it is not always true) that applicants who are turned down will go to a school that may be a better fit. Or at least a good fit. Logically, to hit the bull's eye 30 times, you're going to have to miss it at least a few -- to find an incoming class that fits the school and works well together, you have to pull from a larger pool of choices.

We're applying to schools in Baltimore this season, and a couple of admissions offices have mentioned being willing to talk to families about student assessments, even if an applicant is not admitted. Perhaps their feeling is that the assessments and admissions process provides one more data-point to students and families as they find their way.


That's interesting. Do you mean that, after the decisions are made, a school that rejected a particular student would be willing to explain why the student was rejected, so that the student can perhaps work on that for the future?


This year is my first encounter with the process (from the parent side), so my knowledge is limited. That said, one school mentioned that they were willing to discuss kindergarten assessments with parents after admissions decisions are made. My impression is that this might give some insight into the school’s decision as well as into the student. A second school talked over the assessment results during the parent interview.

I don’t know how common this is, or what feedback is offered to students applying for middle or upper school. In any case, it seems like a good example of admissions offices allowing the process to give parents a potentially useful datapoint.


Now that would be valuable input! I can understand if schools do not want to provide that feedback because they have enough to do and don't want to offend anyone. At the same time, I think it would be incredibly helpful to know what are weak spots that our son or daughter would need to work on.

I wish they'd do this for job applicants too! Honest feedback is so valuable as a step toward making improvements in whatever aspect of our lives.


St. Paul's in Baltimore did this - I thought it was great. What's the big mystery? As long as you are an open-minded and receptive parent, this is a great opportunity to see your kid through a set of more objective eyes. It's not going to change your own opinion of your child (I hope!) but it will give you insight into his/her strengths and weakness as they enter a formal classroom setting.


I think it's a great idea. But would the admissions personnel think it was a bit aggressive for a parent of a "rejected" student to call to ask for constructive criticism? I would love to do so, but don't want to be viewed as over the top.
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I actually got a phone call with a rejection from one school my DS applied and I asked her and she told me she couldn't tell me. Oh well - fine now but I would have appreciated it. Maybe it would have been hard to hear- we had kids with better scores, or who we liked better on the interview or who had richer parents. I don't know -- maybe I would be sorry I asked....
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Anonymous wrote:The harsh perspective is that it's one of those roles (along with development/fundraising) that's a respectable occupation for upper middle class women who have married reasonably well and don't know what else to do with their lives.

The less harsh perspective is that most admissions officers I've encountered have been genuinely nice people who enjoy their jobs.



Um thanks but I work in development (not at a school) and am very invested in my career and am the primary breadwinner compared to my DH. Geez.,
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Anonymous wrote:They champion their "candidates" to the board. If their candidates are chosen, its kudos. Also they get free or reduced fees (depending on the school) for their own children, who they get to see during the day and speak to.
And some of them like the process and some of them get a power kick.

You really need a whole range of folks from admissions to answer. Why not ask directly, if you're going t through the process?


I don't really agree with the quoted poster's formulation. First, I am not sure what the poster means by "board" -- these schools have admissions committees. Also, this is not like colleges where regional reps do champion candidates from their regions. The full-time admissions people read all the files (faculty sitting on the committee might read a smaller number of files) and therefore do not have some sort of vested interested in any particular candidates. At many day schools (as opposed to boarding schools), there is not full or partial tuition remission, either.

Most admissions people I know are friendly, enjoy the challenge/creativity of the marketing aspect, and like meeting the prospective students and their families. They like being in an educational environment, and some are interested in some day running a school (admissions/financial aid/enrollment is an area of importance for school heads and being an Admissions Director is seen as a significant stepping stone).

Every admissions person I know says that it can feel agonizing in committee when there are more qualified applicants than spots -- it's hard to make choices and know that kids/families will be disappointed. However, sometimes families are sure a school would be great for their child and the child herself/himself doesn't feel it, or it's clear it wouldn't be a good fit academically. Admissions people tend to be optimistic and have a pragmatic streak, and do not over-dramatize the idea that a rejection from their particular school will be a crushing blow. They know there are lots of schools in the area and the odds are that the student who got squeezed out of School X will be enthusiastically welcomed to School Y and have a great experience.


This is a nice, balanced perspective. The only difference I'd offer based on experience is that being an admission director is seldom a path to school head. (I say "seldom" because one of the most talented school heads I know did take that path — but of the scores of school heads I've known, I can think of only one other who did.)

Admission officers are almost always extroverts with very strong social/emotional intelligence, passionate about their schools, good at making people feel at ease. I have known some people who have left admission work because of the factors the OP cites (it can be hard having to turn down most "clients"), but people make their peace with all kinds of downsides in all kinds of jobs. It's easy to dump on anybody whose path is different from our own, and hardly a challenge to assume low motives in others, but I've enjoyed talking with every admission officer I've ever met. Each has been smart person doing, in most cases, a job that's tough in one way or another.

Peter

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Anonymous
Are you serious? Power trip, plain and simple. A lot of people like the ability to reject even if they'll tell you that's the hardest part of their job. Yeah right.
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