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asksoccernova wrote:For the U13 boy question, I would go DA and just deal with the commute. Being around other good players will really push him to improve, plus hopefully the training is good.

Being on the local club's A team will always be an option, and if he's in DA for a year and for some reason you don't like it, they will take him back with open arms. If the DA a fit, then stay with it. Not every kid as an opportunity to be in a DA program, so if your son has it, try it out for a year and see how it goes.


For the question about an '06 girl - which area teams / coaches would I like?

I believe Arlington Red & White are doing well in this age group. The coach must be doing something right.

I may have mentioned DC Stoddert before... Karen Kelser is working the U11/U12 age groups and she is a very good teacher of the game to both to players and other coaches. I have a lot of respect for her expertise.

Loudon looks good, this fellow Dan Raben (never heard his name before, but read his bio) seems to know what he's doing with Loudon Red, the top team. - http://www.loudounsoccer.com/techstaff/ (scroll to bottom).
The loudon coaches for 06G Red, 06G Black, 06G White, and 06G Silver look pretty good on paper at least.

Mclean - nobody at U11 who I can really say the same track record of any of the people mentioned by name above. Who knows though, I haven't even seen the team in action.


SYA - CAROLYN RICE....If I had a daughter, I'd want her to play for Carolyn.

Bethesda - I think Sam Roos the daughter of Brad Roos. I'm sure she's been around soccer since age 1 and knows what she's doing.

SYC has Harry Okopu coaching the U11 girls, he is the technical director there.



That's about all that stands out to me at the moment.

Let's pretend commute distance is not a factor here - these would be my choices

1. SYA - Carolyn Rice, my #1 choice here.
2. Arlington - Team seems to be doing very, very well
3. Loudon - Quality age group staff coaches across the board, mutiple teams
4. DC Stoddert - Karen Kelser
5. Bethesda - Sam Roos, Bethesda has good girls teams every year
6. Mclean - Just because its McLean which traditionally is decent on the girls side
7. SYC - Technical Director is coaching the U11 girls



Thanks a lot for your advice!
Anonymous
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asksoccernova wrote:For the U13 boy question, I would go DA and just deal with the commute. Being around other good players will really push him to improve, plus hopefully the training is good.

Being on the local club's A team will always be an option, and if he's in DA for a year and for some reason you don't like it, they will take him back with open arms. If the DA a fit, then stay with it. Not every kid as an opportunity to be in a DA program, so if your son has it, try it out for a year and see how it goes.


For the question about an '06 girl - which area teams / coaches would I like?

I believe Arlington Red & White are doing well in this age group. The coach must be doing something right.

I may have mentioned DC Stoddert before... Karen Kelser is working the U11/U12 age groups and she is a very good teacher of the game to both to players and other coaches. I have a lot of respect for her expertise.

Loudon looks good, this fellow Dan Raben (never heard his name before, but read his bio) seems to know what he's doing with Loudon Red, the top team. - http://www.loudounsoccer.com/techstaff/ (scroll to bottom).
The loudon coaches for 06G Red, 06G Black, 06G White, and 06G Silver look pretty good on paper at least.

Mclean - nobody at U11 who I can really say the same track record of any of the people mentioned by name above. Who knows though, I haven't even seen the team in action.


SYA - CAROLYN RICE....If I had a daughter, I'd want her to play for Carolyn.

Bethesda - I think Sam Roos the daughter of Brad Roos. I'm sure she's been around soccer since age 1 and knows what she's doing.

SYC has Harry Okopu coaching the U11 girls, he is the technical director there.



That's about all that stands out to me at the moment.

Let's pretend commute distance is not a factor here - these would be my choices

1. SYA - Carolyn Rice, my #1 choice here.
2. Arlington - Team seems to be doing very, very well
3. Loudon - Quality age group staff coaches across the board, mutiple teams
4. DC Stoddert - Karen Kelser
5. Bethesda - Sam Roos, Bethesda has good girls teams every year
6. Mclean - Just because its McLean which traditionally is decent on the girls side
7. SYC - Technical Director is coaching the U11 girls



Thanks a lot for your advice!


+1
Anonymous
The best training my 6yo son had was in Manassas at Sports Network. This guy Karl Gibbons started an academy, we paid $60/month for one day a week. My DS also was playing in a rec league. My son progressed more in those 10 months I had him with KG than with the last two coaches he's had in our club in Prince William. The big club myth is a MYTH. I paid less and got more, and BTW there were no games and all of the kids looked very happy to show up every time because they were having fun and learning. The scrimmages at the end of the training were very competitive. There still is for U7 and under indoor Fall, Winter, Spring, Summer leagues which I recommend anybody within driving distance sign up their U8 player or under. They will get out of the 5v5 games with NO THROW INS and constant movement than the rec games where PAID ref's(not sure why you need them) constantly stop games for unintentional fouls or when a 7yo kid slightly lifts his foot in a throw in. RIDICULOUS and does nothing to develop the player's soccer skills.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The best training my 6yo son had was in Manassas at Sports Network. This guy Karl Gibbons started an academy, we paid $60/month for one day a week. My DS also was playing in a rec league. My son progressed more in those 10 months I had him with KG than with the last two coaches he's had in our club in Prince William. The big club myth is a MYTH. I paid less and got more, and BTW there were no games and all of the kids looked very happy to show up every time because they were having fun and learning. The scrimmages at the end of the training were very competitive. There still is for U7 and under indoor Fall, Winter, Spring, Summer leagues which I recommend anybody within driving distance sign up their U8 player or under. They will get out of the 5v5 games with NO THROW INS and constant movement than the rec games where PAID ref's(not sure why you need them) constantly stop games for unintentional fouls or when a 7yo kid slightly lifts his foot in a throw in. RIDICULOUS and does nothing to develop the player's soccer skills.


Don't take this the wrong way because my kid has also been at SNF and I know Karl and he is very good. I would recommend him as well, BUT, at 6 years old it is both easy to learn AND stand out. I'm just saying, pump the breaks a bit here.

That said, the training for the price point at SNF is very good.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The best training my 6yo son had was in Manassas at Sports Network. This guy Karl Gibbons started an academy, we paid $60/month for one day a week. My DS also was playing in a rec league. My son progressed more in those 10 months I had him with KG than with the last two coaches he's had in our club in Prince William. The big club myth is a MYTH. I paid less and got more, and BTW there were no games and all of the kids looked very happy to show up every time because they were having fun and learning. The scrimmages at the end of the training were very competitive. There still is for U7 and under indoor Fall, Winter, Spring, Summer leagues which I recommend anybody within driving distance sign up their U8 player or under. They will get out of the 5v5 games with NO THROW INS and constant movement than the rec games where PAID ref's(not sure why you need them) constantly stop games for unintentional fouls or when a 7yo kid slightly lifts his foot in a throw in. RIDICULOUS and does nothing to develop the player's soccer skills.


Don't take this the wrong way because my kid has also been at SNF and I know Karl and he is very good. I would recommend him as well, BUT, at 6 years old it is both easy to learn AND stand out. I'm just saying, pump the breaks a bit here.

That said, the training for the price point at SNF is very good.


I guess that is what I was getting at. For the $1,400 about, I have paid for the past three years + travel/practices/uniforms I realize the private training maybe the best route. Then you have to give up the games during the weekend which my son looks forward to. Just seems there isn't a middle ground where you can join up an independent travel team and pay very little for the league and then seek out private training.
Anonymous
I'm the mom of the U8 boy who posted a few pages ago. Now that we're two games into the season, I have another question in an attempt to not be "that mom"
(I have a minivan and I'm turning into a soccer mom. Woe is me.
Anyway, at DS's level, the kids all basically play equal time, which is great. In both games, DS has played a little more than half the time. Of that, only in about 25% of the first game did he play offense. The whole rest of the time he's been at defense. He's disappointed (because he's a little kid and wants a chance to score some goals!) but he's done a great job.

At this age, though, I was assuming that they're still young enough that they should all be rotating through the positions. Ds still needs a chance to develop skills at all areas, right?

So, am I off base? Is it appropriate to ask the coach if DS can rotate through a few different positions? Can I tell him that DS doesn't want to commit to only playing defense? How best to approach it (if at all) with the coach?

Thanks!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm the mom of the U8 boy who posted a few pages ago. Now that we're two games into the season, I have another question in an attempt to not be "that mom"
(I have a minivan and I'm turning into a soccer mom. Woe is me.
Anyway, at DS's level, the kids all basically play equal time, which is great. In both games, DS has played a little more than half the time. Of that, only in about 25% of the first game did he play offense. The whole rest of the time he's been at defense. He's disappointed (because he's a little kid and wants a chance to score some goals!) but he's done a great job.

At this age, though, I was assuming that they're still young enough that they should all be rotating through the positions. Ds still needs a chance to develop skills at all areas, right?

So, am I off base? Is it appropriate to ask the coach if DS can rotate through a few different positions? Can I tell him that DS doesn't want to commit to only playing defense? How best to approach it (if at all) with the coach?

Thanks!


In general, yes, kids should be rotated through positions but that doesn't mean it has to happen in every game or even in a season or even that it needs to be done evenly. While it is important for your son to learn to play in all positions it is also equally important that he plays where he has the greatest chance for success. And by that I mean HIS success, not the teams success.

It is worth asking the coach about the approach without making any suggestions or demands. If you ask in a similar fashion as you did here the coach should be happy to explain.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm the mom of the U8 boy who posted a few pages ago. Now that we're two games into the season, I have another question in an attempt to not be "that mom"
(I have a minivan and I'm turning into a soccer mom. Woe is me.
Anyway, at DS's level, the kids all basically play equal time, which is great. In both games, DS has played a little more than half the time. Of that, only in about 25% of the first game did he play offense. The whole rest of the time he's been at defense. He's disappointed (because he's a little kid and wants a chance to score some goals!) but he's done a great job.

At this age, though, I was assuming that they're still young enough that they should all be rotating through the positions. Ds still needs a chance to develop skills at all areas, right?

So, am I off base? Is it appropriate to ask the coach if DS can rotate through a few different positions? Can I tell him that DS doesn't want to commit to only playing defense? How best to approach it (if at all) with the coach?

Thanks!


25% is pretty good. have you ever tried to coach a game? volunteer coaches focus on equal playing time. it is hard to perfectly rotate through all the positions as well. it's been 2 games. the idea is to get exposure to everything over the course of the season. i would hold off questioning the coach. if you and your coach understood soccer, then you would be telling the kids that EVERY position is involved in offense and defense. you are sending the wrong message to elevate this to the coach. my 2 cents from coaching rec for many years.
Anonymous
Rank the DA's in area for u12 overall.
asksoccernova
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If I had more direct knowledge of the U12 boys DA scene, I'd rank them for you, but I have to say this one is out of my sphere
asksoccernova
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Most likely, a U8 coach is not timing subs and tracking time at specific positions. At U8 they play small-sided so the ball is always close by every player and they will all get a lot of touches.

At U9 they move to a larger field (7v7) and its a completely different game... players definitely need to be rotated in 7v7 or they start to become more narrow-minded players and 1-dimensional if only playing the same position.

It's a volunteer / rec coach. Just let your player enjoy the game and sign him up for a training program, which is where he will actually learn skills. You don't learn any new skills during games, especially at U8. Players can't even process spatial information very well at that age and don't really understand positions or roles beyond 1 simple instructional point at a time.

Halfway through the season if your player keeps playing in the exact same position, then mention it in a nice way to the coach. That's all you need to do.
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asksoccernova wrote:Most likely, a U8 coach is not timing subs and tracking time at specific positions. At U8 they play small-sided so the ball is always close by every player and they will all get a lot of touches.

At U9 they move to a larger field (7v7) and its a completely different game... players definitely need to be rotated in 7v7 or they start to become more narrow-minded players and 1-dimensional if only playing the same position.

It's a volunteer / rec coach. Just let your player enjoy the game and sign him up for a training program, which is where he will actually learn skills. You don't learn any new skills during games, especially at U8. Players can't even process spatial information very well at that age and don't really understand positions or roles beyond 1 simple instructional point at a time.

Halfway through the season if your player keeps playing in the exact same position, then mention it in a nice way to the coach. That's all you need to do.


As a rec coach, I would often start each game with a spreadsheet of planned playing time. Then someone would be late or need to come off the field for a minor injury or something, and it would all be wiped out.

But on at least one occasion, it helped me respond to a parent accusing me of stressing winning over development. (In this case, the kid showed up late to the game. Not sure what they expect me to do about that.)
Anonymous
U8 mom here. Thanks all for your quick responses. I'll keep quiet
Anonymous
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asksoccernova wrote:Most likely, a U8 coach is not timing subs and tracking time at specific positions. At U8 they play small-sided so the ball is always close by every player and they will all get a lot of touches.

At U9 they move to a larger field (7v7) and its a completely different game... players definitely need to be rotated in 7v7 or they start to become more narrow-minded players and 1-dimensional if only playing the same position.

It's a volunteer / rec coach. Just let your player enjoy the game and sign him up for a training program, which is where he will actually learn skills. You don't learn any new skills during games, especially at U8. Players can't even process spatial information very well at that age and don't really understand positions or roles beyond 1 simple instructional point at a time.

Halfway through the season if your player keeps playing in the exact same position, then mention it in a nice way to the coach. That's all you need to do.


As a rec coach, I would often start each game with a spreadsheet of planned playing time. Then someone would be late or need to come off the field for a minor injury or something, and it would all be wiped out.

But on at least one occasion, it helped me respond to a parent accusing me of stressing winning over development. (In this case, the kid showed up late to the game. Not sure what they expect me to do about that.)


+1

Happens every time. Best parents are the ones that support and trust the volunteer rec coach. If your kid is not exactly getting the playing time or position you want, then you can either step up and coach the team the next season, or request to switch teams. At U8, positions don't matter anyway. Parents who think they do do not understand. It is very hard to adjust and keep track of 8 players and who got subbed out when, for shoelaces, for brief injury, etc., etc. Positions are the last thing to worry about and at the beginning of each game I try to start players out in new spots basically from an overall sense of what I recall them spending too much time at before in the season. That is about it at U8. Players who show up late or miss warm ups play a few minutes less than others, but are not otherwise penalized. It's rec after all.
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