Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) Veterans Recount Killing Palestinians Out of Boredom

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[Post New]05/28/2015 20:24
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Anonymous
The soldiers describe reducing Gaza neighborhoods to sand, firing artillery at random houses to avenge fallen comrades, shooting at innocent civilians because they were bored and watching armed drones attack a pair of women talking on cellphones because they were assumed to be Hamas scouts.

http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/pdf/ProtectiveEdge.pdf

[Post New]05/28/2015 20:53
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Anonymous
But Hamas is so bad, you are antisemitic and We share values with you Americans.
[Post New]05/28/2015 21:55
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Anonymous
That does not surprise me.
[Post New]05/28/2015 22:57
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Anonymous
Know your source:
http://www.ngo-monitor.org/article/breaking_the_silence_shovirm_shtika_
[Post New]05/28/2015 23:31
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Anonymous wrote:Know your source:
http://www.ngo-monitor.org/article/breaking_the_silence_shovirm_shtika_


Exactly, know your sources


NGO Monitor is a Jerusalem-based organization linked to right-wing and neoconservative sectors in the United States and Israel that aims to curb what it regards as the undue influence of human rights groups critical of Israeli policies. Similar in purpose and ideological outlook to UN Watch (affiliated with the American Jewish Committee) and Global Governance Watch (a joint project of the Federalist Society and the American Enterprise Institute), NGO Monitor endeavors to marginalize the influence of certain human rights groups by claiming that they are biased, hypocritical, and/or anti-Semitic. - Source: http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/ngo_monitor#sthash.ZYdDQNPq.dpuf


NGO Monitor Some of those engaged in the nastiest tactics are extreme right-wing groups like Im Tirtzu or NGO Monitor, which are both closely connected to the Israeli government. Recently, in response to an NGO Monitor report attacking it, the U.S. group, Jewish Voice for Peace, wrote: “NGO Monitor has a long history, broadly documented, of attacking any organization that it believes is effectively criticizing Israeli policies. The organizations NGO Monitor has attacked include Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, B’Tselem, Breaking the Silence, Al Haq, and the New Israel Fund, to name just a few. We are honored to be among them.” - Source: http://muzzlewatch.com/category/ngo-monitor/#sthash.hxRkTfDg.dpuf
[Post New]05/28/2015 23:37
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Anonymous
WaPo also gives credence to the report.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israeli-veterans-say-permissive-rules-of-engagement-fueled-gaza-carnage/2015/05/04/ab698d16-f020-11e4-8050-839e9234b303_story.html
[Post New]05/28/2015 23:41
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Anonymous
You give me two hack websites to support your views? Seriously?

From NGO:


Political Advocacy: Active in promoting “war crimes” charges against Israel. These charges were based on anonymous and unverifiable hearsay “testimonies.”
Although claiming to address Israeli society, the NGO’s lobbying and media advocacy focus on international audiences, including presentations in Europe and the United States. Yehuda Shaul, BtS co-founder, defended this practice: “Sometimes, when you want to deliver messages to the inside, you must go outside.”
NGO Monitor revealed that following the 2009 Gaza conflict, several BtS donors conditioned the transfer of money to the group on its ability to gather a minimum number of incriminating “testimonies” against the Israeli army.

I also suggest you check NGO's mission statement. And its donors.
[Post New]05/28/2015 23:41
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:WaPo also gives credence to the report.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israeli-veterans-say-permissive-rules-of-engagement-fueled-gaza-carnage/2015/05/04/ab698d16-f020-11e4-8050-839e9234b303_story.html


From the WaPo article:

"The testimonies in the report are anonymous and impossible to independently verify. "
[Post New]05/28/2015 23:47
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Anonymous
And Hamas always makes sure that no civilians are injured in their attacks.

Don't throw stones if you live in glass houses
[Post New]05/29/2015 00:29
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And Hamas always makes sure that no civilians are injured in their attacks.

Don't throw stones if you live in glass houses


So what you're saying is that no difference between hamas and the israeli military.

I agree.

They are both war criminals indiscriminately killing civilians.

You're a great debater.
[Post New]05/29/2015 10:49
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And Hamas always makes sure that no civilians are injured in their attacks.

Don't throw stones if you live in glass houses


So what you're saying is that no difference between hamas and the israeli military.

I agree.

They are both war criminals indiscriminately killing civilians.

You're a great debater.

HAMAS IS KILLING THEIR OWN PEOPLE, in addition to killing Israelis. In fact, so many muslims are killing other muslims that no Israeli offensive could ever come close. Just today - another bomb exploded in Saudi Arabia - courtesy of fellow muslims. But of course no one is concerned about that because no jews can be blamed for it.
[Post New]05/29/2015 11:02
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And Hamas always makes sure that no civilians are injured in their attacks.

Don't throw stones if you live in glass houses


So what you're saying is that no difference between hamas and the israeli military.

I agree.

They are both war criminals indiscriminately killing civilians.

You're a great debater.

HAMAS IS KILLING THEIR OWN PEOPLE, in addition to killing Israelis. In fact, so many muslims are killing other muslims that no Israeli offensive could ever come close. Just today - another bomb exploded in Saudi Arabia - courtesy of fellow muslims. But of course no one is concerned about that because no jews can be blamed for it.


Nice try deflecting from the topic at hand.
[Post New]05/29/2015 14:59
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Anonymous
How is this not a war crime? This looks like a confession. Reminds me when people looked away when hitler was murdering jews, gypsies, slavs and other civilians he considered to be from "inferior" races. The israeli government is asking the world to ignore its atrocities.
[Post New]05/29/2015 15:16
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And Hamas always makes sure that no civilians are injured in their attacks.

Don't throw stones if you live in glass houses


So what you're saying is that no difference between hamas and the israeli military.

I agree.

They are both war criminals indiscriminately killing civilians.

You're a great debater.

HAMAS IS KILLING THEIR OWN PEOPLE, in addition to killing Israelis. In fact, so many muslims are killing other muslims that no Israeli offensive could ever come close. Just today - another bomb exploded in Saudi Arabia - courtesy of fellow muslims. But of course no one is concerned about that because no jews can be blamed for it.


How does a bombing conducted by IS have anything to do with Hamas?
[Post New]05/30/2015 08:16
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Anonymous
I know through word of mouth that this kind of story is credible. One Israeli family where the husband mentioned similar stuff.
At war time the sides hate each other and goal is to cause as much damage as possible.

Israelis want to make all arabs into refugeees in some other country. They look at themselves as superior.
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