Anonymous wrote:Sort of. But leaving dictator thugs in power isn't necessarily a great alternative.

I know there aren't any easy answers. I guess I just wish everyone could act like responsible adults and treat each other with respect. Why is it so hard to embrace basic commonsense human behavior instead of acting like savages? And I guess I'm just so flipping frustrated that the international community has allowed many Arab nations to promote or condone serious human rights violations (including treating women like property) by writing it off as cultural or religious beliefs. That has led to generations of men being raised to believe that it's the cultural norm, and that their religion calls for it. The indoctrination of the extremists is (sadly) easily understood. That's the real issue I suppose.

I mean, if my parish priest all of a sudden said it's time for us to (insert ridiculous laundry list of barbaric rules and practices), no one would jump on his bandwagon. I guess I just don't see how the international community can fix the problem...it's too big...it's too far gone.

Maybe that's a great topic for a new thread: How do you fix this problem?

Aside from decimating a few countries (which I am not proposing), how do you fix the problem?

Switching gears slightly: Anonymous has declared war on the jihadists. They posted a video saying they will attack their social media and other web based networks. Maybe that's a start.

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Anonymous wrote:Sort of. But leaving dictator thugs in power isn't necessarily a great alternative.

I know there aren't any easy answers. I guess I just wish everyone could act like responsible adults and treat each other with respect. Why is it so hard to embrace basic commonsense human behavior instead of acting like savages? And I guess I'm just so flipping frustrated that the international community has allowed many Arab nations to promote or condone serious human rights violations (including treating women like property) by writing it off as cultural or religious beliefs. That has led to generations of men being raised to believe that it's the cultural norm, and that their religion calls for it. The indoctrination of the extremists is (sadly) easily understood. That's the real issue I suppose.

I mean, if my parish priest all of a sudden said it's time for us to (insert ridiculous laundry list of barbaric rules and practices), no one would jump on his bandwagon. I guess I just don't see how the international community can fix the problem...it's too big...it's too far gone.

Maybe that's a great topic for a new thread: How do you fix this problem?

Aside from decimating a few countries (which I am not proposing), how do you fix the problem?

Switching gears slightly: Anonymous has declared war on the jihadists. They posted a video saying they will attack their social media and other web based networks. Maybe that's a start.

chances are your parish is not extremely poor, uneducated, and politically oppressed. It's hard to find time to become a jihadi when you are taking your kids to travel soccer and ballet.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sort of. But leaving dictator thugs in power isn't necessarily a great alternative.

I know there aren't any easy answers. I guess I just wish everyone could act like responsible adults and treat each other with respect. Why is it so hard to embrace basic commonsense human behavior instead of acting like savages? And I guess I'm just so flipping frustrated that the international community has allowed many Arab nations to promote or condone serious human rights violations (including treating women like property) by writing it off as cultural or religious beliefs. That has led to generations of men being raised to believe that it's the cultural norm, and that their religion calls for it. The indoctrination of the extremists is (sadly) easily understood. That's the real issue I suppose.

I mean, if my parish priest all of a sudden said it's time for us to (insert ridiculous laundry list of barbaric rules and practices), no one would jump on his bandwagon. I guess I just don't see how the international community can fix the problem...it's too big...it's too far gone.

Maybe that's a great topic for a new thread: How do you fix this problem?

Aside from decimating a few countries (which I am not proposing), how do you fix the problem?

Switching gears slightly: Anonymous has declared war on the jihadists. They posted a video saying they will attack their social media and other web based networks. Maybe that's a start.

chances are your parish is not extremely poor, uneducated, and politically oppressed. It's hard to find time to become a jihadi when you are taking your kids to travel soccer and ballet.

You're falling into a simpleton trap of "only poor people do that." The ranks of jihadis are full of doctors, lawyers, reporters etc.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sort of. But leaving dictator thugs in power isn't necessarily a great alternative.

I know there aren't any easy answers. I guess I just wish everyone could act like responsible adults and treat each other with respect. Why is it so hard to embrace basic commonsense human behavior instead of acting like savages? And I guess I'm just so flipping frustrated that the international community has allowed many Arab nations to promote or condone serious human rights violations (including treating women like property) by writing it off as cultural or religious beliefs. That has led to generations of men being raised to believe that it's the cultural norm, and that their religion calls for it. The indoctrination of the extremists is (sadly) easily understood. That's the real issue I suppose.

I mean, if my parish priest all of a sudden said it's time for us to (insert ridiculous laundry list of barbaric rules and practices), no one would jump on his bandwagon. I guess I just don't see how the international community can fix the problem...it's too big...it's too far gone.

Maybe that's a great topic for a new thread: How do you fix this problem?

Aside from decimating a few countries (which I am not proposing), how do you fix the problem?

Switching gears slightly: Anonymous has declared war on the jihadists. They posted a video saying they will attack their social media and other web based networks. Maybe that's a start.

chances are your parish is not extremely poor, uneducated, and politically oppressed. It's hard to find time to become a jihadi when you are taking your kids to travel soccer and ballet.

You're falling into a simpleton trap of "only poor people do that." The ranks of jihadis are full of doctors, lawyers, reporters etc.

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Let's see. Whose organization conducted 9/11? Oh, yes, that would be Bin Laden. Hardly a poor man.

jsteele wrote:Piers Morgan is an idiot. I would like to think that, regardless of all our other differences, we could al agree on that. Morgan has no right to tell someone what their religion is or is not. Individuals get to identify their own religions. The vast majority of people who consider themselves Muslims don't practice or believe in the horrific practices of IS. Many members of that vast majority have already made statement disassociating Islam as they practice it from IS's version.

However, there is a critical problem of defining whether IS are "real Muslims". The roots of the Islam practiced by IS and by al-Qaidia are the same roots of the official Islam of Saudi Arabia. Were Saudi Arabia take steps to delegitimize IS, it would undermine its own religious authenticity. The US is apparently in no position to rock the boat with the Saudis. Ironically, Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood could have been a useful opponent to IS and al-Qaida. But, due to the US-supported coup in Egypt, those guys are all dead, arrested, or in hiding.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Let's see. Whose organization conducted 9/11? Oh, yes, that would be Bin Laden. Hardly a poor man.

Oh wow, so there is a rich person. I guess the whole point is blown. Poverty, education and oppression have nothing to do with jihad.

idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Let's see. Whose organization conducted 9/11? Oh, yes, that would be Bin Laden. Hardly a poor man.

Oh wow, so there is a rich person. I guess the whole point is blown. Poverty, education and oppression have nothing to do with jihad.

idiot.

And then there's Aafia Siddiqui, the FBI's most wanted woman. With her degrees from MIT and Brandeis and married to a doctor and has 3 children.

The masterminds and main operation coordinators of these Jihadi terrorist missions are very well educated and well off. Those they recruit maybe not so much.

But low income gang members that sell drugs and commit crimes for their wealthy overlords don't get a pass. Neither should these "poor, impoverished, oppressed" jihadis that are killing people left and right.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Let's see. Whose organization conducted 9/11? Oh, yes, that would be Bin Laden. Hardly a poor man.

Oh wow, so there is a rich person. I guess the whole point is blown. Poverty, education and oppression have nothing to do with jihad.

idiot.

And then there's Aafia Siddiqui, the FBI's most wanted woman. With her degrees from MIT and Brandeis and married to a doctor and has 3 children.

The masterminds and main operation coordinators of these Jihadi terrorist missions are very well educated and well off. Those they recruit maybe not so much.

But low income gang members that sell drugs and commit crimes for their wealthy overlords don't get a pass. Neither should these "poor, impoverished, oppressed" jihadis that are killing people left and right.

No one gives them a pas. You lost track of the point. The point is that these organizations attract people who are poor, uneducated and oppressed.