Anonymous wrote:

DS63 wrote:That is a really bad table. It tells you what percent of overall students are admitted each year....but most happen at Grade 3. But, the key piece of information is, what is the number of kids in Level IV, compared with the number of kids in the county. They give you the number of kids not in level iv; number in level 4 = total - number not in level 4.

That is about 20,000 kids getting level IV services, out of 81,000 in grades 3-8, or 25% getting level 4.

I wonder how much of that 20,000 is the number of middle schoolers taking all honors classes. A middle schooler not at an AAP Center but still taking four honors classes is considered receiving Level IV services.

DS63[b wrote:]But, the county is claiming that all honors is comparable to AAP. [/b] So, it is comparable. It is a good question, non the less. I would argue if a kid was Level IV in the 6th grade, and takes all honors at a non-aap middle school, then that may be AAP. In reality, the only school with a significant number of those will be Thoreau

DS63 wrote:But, the county is claiming that all honors is comparable to AAP. So, it is comparable. It is a good question, non the less. I would argue if a kid was Level IV in the 6th grade, and takes all honors at a non-aap middle school, then that may be AAP. In reality, the only school with a significant number of those will be Thoreau

Anonymous wrote:

DS63 wrote:But, the county is claiming that all honors is comparable to AAP. So, it is comparable. It is a good question, non the less. I would argue if a kid was Level IV in the 6th grade, and takes all honors at a non-aap middle school, then that may be AAP. In reality, the only school with a significant number of those will be Thoreau

Anyone who know anything about this knows the open honors classes, available to anyone who chooses to attend, is not equivalent to AAP.[b] For one thing, the kids are different and that, of course, makes all the difference.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DS63 wrote:But, the county is claiming that all honors is comparable to AAP. So, it is comparable. It is a good question, non the less. I would argue if a kid was Level IV in the 6th grade, and takes all honors at a non-aap middle school, then that may be AAP. In reality, the only school with a significant number of those will be Thoreau

Anyone who know anything about this knows the open honors classes, available to anyone who chooses to attend, is not equivalent to AAP.[b] For one thing, the kids are different and that, of course, makes all the difference.

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And anyone who knows anything about anything knows that none of this matters. If a kid is smart and works hard, they'll do well in high school whether their previous classes were GT, AAP, Honors, GE, remedial or taught at home by their mom. You people need to get over your obsession with splitting these hairs. It's not as if exposure to some vaunted "higher level" of teaching or material in grade school or middle school is going to guarantee kids some special edge in high school and beyond. It's kind of like sports, the talented ones and those willing to work hard will excel whether they were ID'd as "advanced" in the 3rd grade or not.

Get over yourselves, already! Send your kids to any of the great schools in FCPS and let them learn to love learning.

Anonymous wrote:

DS63 wrote:But, the county is claiming that all honors is comparable to AAP. So, it is comparable. It is a good question, non the less. I would argue if a kid was Level IV in the 6th grade, and takes all honors at a non-aap middle school, then that may be AAP. In reality, the only school with a significant number of those will be Thoreau

Anyone who know anything about this knows the open honors classes, available to anyone who chooses to attend, is not equivalent to AAP. For one thing, the kids are different and that, of course, makes all the difference.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DS63 wrote:But, the county is claiming that all honors is comparable to AAP. So, it is comparable. It is a good question, non the less. I would argue if a kid was Level IV in the 6th grade, and takes all honors at a non-aap middle school, then that may be AAP. In reality, the only school with a significant number of those will be Thoreau

Anyone who know anything about this knows the open honors classes, available to anyone who chooses to attend, is not equivalent to AAP. For one thing, the kids are different and that, of course, makes all the difference.

Ugh, do you hear yourself? No wonder AAP kids have such a high opinion of themselves; they're fed nonsense like this by their parents. Honors classes most definitely do not need AAP kids to be vibrant, interesting places to learn. This attitude makes me want to get the hell out of this self-inflated area.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DS63 wrote:But, the county is claiming that all honors is comparable to AAP. So, it is comparable. It is a good question, non the less. I would argue if a kid was Level IV in the 6th grade, and takes all honors at a non-aap middle school, then that may be AAP. In reality, the only school with a significant number of those will be Thoreau

Anyone who know anything about this knows the open honors classes, available to anyone who chooses to attend, is not equivalent to AAP. For one thing, the kids are different and that, of course, makes all the difference.

Ugh, do you hear yourself? No wonder AAP kids have such a high opinion of themselves; they're fed nonsense like this by their parents. Honors classes most definitely do not need AAP kids to be vibrant, interesting places to learn. This attitude makes me want to get the hell out of this self-inflated area.

bu-bye

Anonymous wrote:people who say the open enrollment honors classes are the same as AAP reminds me of Liar Liar where Jim Carrey's kid said "my teacher says beauty is on the inside."
And Carrey, who cannot tell a lie, says; "that's just something ugly people say."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DS63 wrote:But, the county is claiming that all honors is comparable to AAP. So, it is comparable. It is a good question, non the less. I would argue if a kid was Level IV in the 6th grade, and takes all honors at a non-aap middle school, then that may be AAP. In reality, the only school with a significant number of those will be Thoreau

Anyone who know anything about this knows the open honors classes, available to anyone who chooses to attend, is not equivalent to AAP.[b] For one thing, the kids are different and that, of course, makes all the difference.

[/b]

And anyone who knows anything about anything knows that none of this matters. If a kid is smart and works hard, they'll do well in high school whether their previous classes were GT, AAP, Honors, GE, remedial or taught at home by their mom. You people need to get over your obsession with splitting these hairs. It's not as if exposure to some vaunted "higher level" of teaching or material in grade school or middle school is going to guarantee kids some special edge in high school and beyond. It's kind of like sports, the talented ones and those willing to work hard will excel whether they were ID'd as "advanced" in the 3rd grade or not.

Get over yourselves, already! Send your kids to any of the great schools in FCPS and let them learn to love learning.

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It's sad (and frankly a little scary) that some parents are convinced their AAP kids are actually going to be ahead of the game once in high school. High school is an even playing ground for all. I have one in high school now and one who has graduated; it's very interesting to see which kids excel in high school and which don't. Quite a reality check for some parents.

Anonymous wrote:

DS63[b wrote:]But, the county is claiming that all honors is comparable to AAP. [/b] So, it is comparable. It is a good question, non the less. I would argue if a kid was Level IV in the 6th grade, and takes all honors at a non-aap middle school, then that may be AAP. In reality, the only school with a significant number of those will be Thoreau

Ridiculous. Where are they claiming that?

The school-based services provide advanced academic services for students with
strengths in the areas of language arts, mathematics, science, and/or social studies. Level IV
services provide challenging curriculum and instruction to students in the four core academic
subject areas through full time placement in a center program or through Local Level IV
services at thirty-five elementary schools and full Honors at every middle school.

DS63 wrote:But, the county is claiming that all honors is comparable to AAP. So, it is comparable. It is a good question, non the less. I would argue if a kid was Level IV in the 6th grade, and takes all honors at a non-aap middle school, then that may be AAP. In reality, the only school with a significant number of those will be Thoreau