We are considering a move to MD for schools. Takoma Park resonates with me more, but we could probably squeak into a small house in Bethesda to be in the BCC cluster. Any thoughts on the tradeoffs? I dont want to shortchange my kids' education just so i can live in a big Victorian, but lots of families seem to love Takoma Park. And, does anyone know if it is possible to have ones chil(ren) tested for entry into gifted programs before moving to the state of MD? |
Pricewise TP is going to be more expensive than Rosemary Hills, so it doesn't sounds like a budget thing for you. The difference is mainly about lifestyle, and you're either a takoma person or a bethesda person. Obviously the higher level schools are better rated in Bethesda, although for ES it's probably a wash. Most of the people I know who have older kids living in TP go private, so read into that whatever you like.
Both are wonderful areas to raise a kid, so figure out which scene is more you and go from there. |
I know many many people in TP and only one sends kids to private. The vast majority go to Blair -- I don't think this is accurate. |
Agree with PP - it inaccurate to say that most older kids in TP go private. The vast majority of TP kids go to TP Middle School or Eastern for the Humanities Magnet and then go on to Blair or Einstein (if they are doing the magnet there).
On paper, Bethesda schools are better but as a 10 year TP resident with kids in ES and MS, I wouldn't trade our community (or schools) for anything that Bethesda offers. |
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Takoma Park "walk to school" event - http://tpssvoice.com/2013/10/10/photos-takoma-park-walks-to-school/?utm_source=feedly |
First of all, if you're considering a move to MoCo for schools, it will be tough to get into the really selective special programs from afar. So if your kids are at transitional times -- eg 7th or 5th grades-- you should check carefully if they really will be considered for magnet programs. All of the program applications deadline around early November for the following year. I faced the same choice 2 years ago and chose the Takoma Park/Blair thing -- I like the diversity on this side of the county and I think both those schools have a lot of heart. But basically what I learned is that public education in MoCo is about a lot of navigation and you're going to wind up with great teachers/poor teachers all over the place. It's a little more homogeneous at BCC, but I think the more capable kids are a little more cherished at Blair. Here's an issue though -- your move will resonate for years. In trying for high school magnets, it turns out that that they pull a lot from middle school magnets (apparently) which essentially means that your chances of getting into a high school magnet can relate as far back as to where you were in 4th grade and applying for middle school magnets ... like everywhere, parents are very aware of the systems and looking out for opportunities for their kids for years, which can make it harder for newcomers to compete for spots. This is impressionistic, I haven't seen hard numbers, but I do know a lot of the high school magnet slots are filled by MS middle school kids. And that's understandable, just a bit frustrating for newcomers with very capable kids. And I can't complain because I was in the same position in a very wacky school district in which the waiting list started at birth ... if you moved in even when the kid was one you were essentially shut out of the local (very good) public school and had to go elsewhere. |
It really depends where you think you'll be more comfortable. Spend some time in local parks and try to figure out if it's your vibe. We looked at both places and ended up in Silver Spring. IMO, I find Bethesda-types to be very snobby and classist. I do have a lot of friends who live there, but as a whole -- some of the people who live there look down on people that don't come from money. My HHI is $300k -- but you still get a lot of snobby looks if you are not a SAHM with a nanny. That is a gross generalization, but I have encountered this attitude at PTA events, "Why would you need after-care?" [You work ... oh, the horror.] Similarly, Takoma Park types tend to be very open to diversity and environmental/left-leaning issues. If activism isn't your thing, you might feel a bit out of place. I also wouldn't move out of DC for the MCPS schools; they are suffering under Starr's leadership and being de facto racially and economically divided. I suppose that was historically true, but it has become increasingly pronounced as Bethesda fights to make their schools richer and whiter (look at the Beth Elem fight ... they successfully kicked out kids of color and brought down an already low FARMS rate). Very sad that in a county as relatively affluent as MoCo we can't extend equal opportunities to those most in need. |
It is true that many of the middle and high school competitive-entrance magnet programs are heavily populated by students who were, respectively, in elementary school Center (gifted) and middle school magnet programs - but that is not because these schools "pull" from the magnets; it is because these kids are highly capable and are admitted on that basis (testing, transcripts, recommendations). It is also true that many Center and magnet kids are not invited to the middle & high school magnets (my kid is one of them) and that many "regular" program kids are. I agree that being an MCPS parent, particularly in eastern MoCo, entails a lot of navigating and strategizing. It is exhausting and frustrating. |
I disagree with about 90% of this post. |
Hmmm ... I agree with most of it. |
Both communities have their advantages. People definitely move to TP for a certain vibe . Regarding the negative posts about Bethesda , I've never encountered anti- work elitist attitudes at our Bethesda PTA events. I work full time, as do many of the moms at our school. I googled the Bethesda controversy the pp referred to because I wasn't familiar with this issue , and characterizing the re districting as an attempt to make schools more white seems like a gross oversimplification . |
It's not just "on paper." A lot depends on where you are socioeconomically, ethnically and racially. We have family in the Eastern/Blair path and there have been social issues for the kids (both white geeks). |
Takoma Park kids go to TPMS, not Eastern. Some Takoma kids attend the magnet at Eastern, but TPMS is the neighborhood middle school. |
What sort of social issues? |