Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This actress knew she was putting herself in the public eye and in facts embraces her size on TV.

Look, being fat is bad. Being thin is good. Being fat = unattractive. Thin IS pretty and desirable.

No amount of pouting over that or indignance about comments made on a stupid TV show will change those facts.

So should public figures of color endure racist jokes? After all, they put themselves in the public eye and we all know that popular media sees darker skin as bad.

Or should celebrities with disabilities put up with nasty comments? Hey, they put themselves out there.

Bitch I can't change my skin color. Not can I grow a fucking arm. This fatty can go be a Jenny Craig spokesperson.
Have you had too many pumpkin lattes?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Joan felt able to make these remarks because it seemed like Dunham wanted to mock the awards with her dress and makeup. It really looked like Dunham wanted to say I'm too cool and too smart for this kind of bs. Yes, she's heavy but she also didn't make an effort. I think the fashion round up shows are entertaining and watch them after all the big awards shows. I have never seen them make any kind of comment about Octavia Spencer or Melissa McCarthy or Queen Latifah because they all show up dressed properly and looking very glam. With everything Dunham had access to it's kind of unbelievable the way she looked. She was trying to discount the industry that she herself works in.

Interesting theory about Joan's motive. Perhaps you're right. I didn't see last night's show, but I do usually watch it after the big awards ceremonies. I've never heard Joan Rivers or the other "police" on her show ridicule anyone's size or body before. I've been pleasantly surprised and pleased with the way they critique the fashion while being very accepting of women's different bodies. They do often note how well or how poorly a dress flatters the wearer, but they treat weight the same way they treat any other physical trait that affects the way a dress looks on someone, like height, coloring, bustiness, etc. It's always been respectful of women's actual bodies, and the larger message has been that everyone can look good, can look their best, with thoughtful fashion choices.

In other words, criticizing Lena's body seems like a real departure.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This actress knew she was putting herself in the public eye and in facts embraces her size on TV.

Look, being fat is bad. Being thin is good. Being fat = unattractive. Thin IS pretty and desirable.

No amount of pouting over that or indignance about comments made on a stupid TV show will change those facts.

So should public figures of color endure racist jokes? After all, they put themselves in the public eye and we all know that popular media sees darker skin as bad.

Or should celebrities with disabilities put up with nasty comments? Hey, they put themselves out there.

Bitch I can't change my skin color. Not can I grow a fucking arm. This fatty can go be a Jenny Craig spokesperson.
Have you had too many pumpkin lattes?

Anonymous wrote:The thing to me is that Lena, while not toned or fit per se, can't be more than a size 8. That's what we consider fat? I worry about the increasingly narrow standard of what we call thin.

What does this tell my daughters? Unless you are a size 2 or 4 you should be ashamed? Avoid the public eye? And if you see someone else bigger than a 4, then you're allowed to mock their body?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Joan felt able to make these remarks because it seemed like Dunham wanted to mock the awards with her dress and makeup. It really looked like Dunham wanted to say I'm too cool and too smart for this kind of bs. Yes, she's heavy but she also didn't make an effort. I think the fashion round up shows are entertaining and watch them after all the big awards shows. I have never seen them make any kind of comment about Octavia Spencer or Melissa McCarthy or Queen Latifah because they all show up dressed properly and looking very glam. With everything Dunham had access to it's kind of unbelievable the way she looked. She was trying to discount the industry that she herself works in.

Interesting theory about Joan's motive. Perhaps you're right. I didn't see last night's show, but I do usually watch it after the big awards ceremonies. I've never heard Joan Rivers or the other "police" on her show ridicule anyone's size or body before. I've been pleasantly surprised and pleased with the way they critique the fashion while being very accepting of women's different bodies. They do often note how well or how poorly a dress flatters the wearer, but they treat weight the same way they treat any other physical trait that affects the way a dress looks on someone, like height, coloring, bustiness, etc. It's always been respectful of women's actual bodies, and the larger message has been that everyone can look good, can look their best, with thoughtful fashion choices.

In other words, criticizing Lena's body seems like a real departure.

Joan River makes fun of women all the time b/c of their looks:

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/adele-weight-jab-joan-rivers-other-celebs-fat-195300132.html

She started in on a Elizabeth Taylor and basically made a living off of being a nasty bitch who isn't clever or funny:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/makeemlaugh/episodes/best-of-the-best/joan-rivers-on-the-hypocrisy-of-celebrity/18/

maril332 wrote:how is this fat
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Anonymous wrote:As a not-thin person, I think comments on her weight are just going to happen. Yes, she's overweight. Obese? No. She dresses in unflattering clothes, both in real life and on her show. She shows herself undressed - her choice, but she knows she's opening herself up to criticism. She's a smart girl - and she could have lost weight by now if she wanted to - she's been famous for awhile. Her size is part of her "thing" - and I guarantee you she knows about it and knows people talk about it.