A week?! Please tell me you are joking! Honey, go throw that thing in the Potomac! It's like torturing a smoker who is trying to quit by stashing a pack of Marlboros in her bedside table.... |
OP, my midwife could not find the heartbeat at an appointment at nearly 14 weeks. It happens! U/S showed us the little creature was absolutely perfect, moving all around and heartbeating up a storm.
I don't think parental anxiety is THE reason not to use a home doppler, although it is one of them. Most experts believe ultrasound (doppler is ultrasound technology) is generally safe, there is no conclusive evidence about risks of repeated or prolonged exposures. Other sources say it's probably fine. But I find it interesting. We know that alcohol at high doses can harm a baby but there is no conclusive evidence that even 2 / 3 drinks a day causes harm to the baby. And yet, who among us would drink 3 times a day? Now I know that many will point out the obvious glaring differences between ultrasound and drinking, some of which are factual (yes, one is a drug, the other is technology) and some are arguable (drinking has no benefit, whereas ultrasound / monitoring may have some benefit) and of course, that high doses of alcohol have already shown harm, whereas high doses of u/s are just not well understood and "may" cause harm. However, the big similarity is that we rely on the absence of evidence of harm. So doctors warn us away from moderate drinking (some say light drinking is okay) but only some of them will warn us against overuse of u/s or doppler technology. There may be some risk, ladies, and you have to accept that you should NOT be reassured by your doppler at all, because all the evidence shows that a heartbeat on that thing means absolutely nothing about your babies health and well-being. So you're exposing baby to some harm for little more than entertainment purposes, or a superstitious type of reassurance that is not actually meaningful. Think about it... |
Also, please read this whole article, but this page (linked) is where it discusses doppler. Overall it's reassuring, but it's a level-headed look at the (real) potential risks:
http://contemporaryobgyn.modernmedicine.com/contemporary-obgyn/news/modernmedicine/modern-medicine-now/fetal-ultrasound-how-put-safety-first?id=&sk=&date=&%0A%09%09%09&pageID=3 |
I 've thought about it, and I think if you don't know that there are still risks regardless, then I don't know what to tell ya.
I use mine a couple of times a week and will until I can feel movement because it keeps me from going bat shit. Any intelligent woman knows there are still risks that a Doppler can't identify, which is why there are doctor's visits. I think women who use it every day for an hour are not doing themselves any favors, for 3 minutes a couple times a week? The fumes from my metro commute are far worse. |
did you read the contemporary OB gyn evidence-based article? It's well cited and I think you're making the assumption you want to make because you want to use the doppler. With all due respect, you're using it as a toy when there is some evidence of harm. Just read about how doppler is stronger than ultrasound. Doctors recommend that you don't use it. Have you told your OB you're using it this often? Honestly, I don't think you have real evidence to suggest that metro fumes are worse, though obviously in an ideal world you wouldn't have to breathe pollution, either. Just because there are other risks in life does not mean you should ignore the risks you can easily control. The doppler is not proven safe for home use, and there's evidence of some harm. Why in the world would anyone continue to use it - especially as often as 3x a week? |
I read a lot of research about it before I bought it and I just read what you posted. Yes, I told my OB at my last appointment.
In an ideal world, being pregnant wouldn't stress me out (though, I'm not as stressed now, which is why I use it much less often). I don't treat it like a toy, nor am I unaware of the risks. I don't think people here would care about the risks associated with my not sleeping, my elevated blood pressure from my stress, etc. funny how that works (heck, there's even a thread about 'things I'm against' on the general board, and IVF is one those - IVF comes with increased risks, too - I guess I shouldn't have done that?). My OB said to limit my use (which I do) and now that I'm not as 'fragile' emotionally as I was, I definitely don't rely on it. I understand where OP is coming from, and she didn't ask to be lectured. |
OP, I didn't read the article that PP posted, but my baby HATES the doppler. She moves away from it - my OB literally has to chase her with it in order to get the heartbeat. I've heard from several friends who have had the same thing happen. That's one reason that we stopped using the in home doppler. |
I mean this kindly but if you are getting elevated blood pressure and not sleeping due to fears that your baby is not okay, your doppler should not be the treatment of choice. This is a job for a counselor or something. The results you get from the doppler should not reassure you. You should just consult a magic eight ball for an equally accurate response. You may think it's baby's heartbeat but it might not be, especially if your blood pressure is elevated your pulse might be, too. I think IVF has a pretty obvious benefit, the baby in your arms. But I question why anyone would intentionally expose baby to risk for a meaningless reassurance? If your anxiety is that high, and I mean this kindly, you could benefit from CBT or stress management counseling, and should not rely on a gimmicky and potentially risky toy to achieve it. BTW, the problem with having a screen name is that you start to get known for things. You are very bristly anytime someone presents you with evidence you don't like. These boards are not a good place to come expecting that people will hold back their opinions. And the fact is, nobody has been unkind to you or OP, we are looking out for you and your baby. You certainly don't have to take my advice or anyone else's, but it's a mixed bag here in terms of what you're going to get. I just find it so strange that often, the same people will studiously avoid caffeine and alcohol, avoid lunch meat, soft cheese, etc, and worry a ton about the pregnancy in the first place would keep doing something that there is actual evidence that might harm it! If your'e so stressed, why invite unnecessary risk? |
I have a screen name because I don't think anonymous posts create any sort of community. And people here have strong feelings about stuff that frankly isn't any of their business (working mothers, medicated births, circumcision) in the grand scheme of things. Heck, people are nasty to one another - hello, mommy wars.
I do appreciate your concern, but I did speak with my care provider about this. I also read what you posted. I do consume caffeine. (I avoid deli meat because I don't eat meat...which I'm sure isn't good to my baby according to some study...and I never drank well before becoming pregnant - I'd rather consume those calories another way!) |
+1 |
OP back again - wow, thought this thread would disappear down the boards ![]() |
That was supposed to be less sleep. Ah, the irony. |
I agree 100x. No home Doppler use!!!!!!!! |
Yes but it is giving you a false sense of security. Just b/c you can hear the heartbeat doesn't mean something else more serious is not wrong. |
So do you forego all ultrasounds? |