Why, why, why did I test 6dp5dt?

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Anonymous wrote:Shady Grove doesn't test until 13dp5dt. It's torture but I refuse to test on my own earlier. Like others said it's too painful to see that BFN


But is horribly painful to get the call of some nurse - maybe not even your assigned nurse coordinator - announcing you're not pregnant. Sorry, been through that too many times. I test before so I can come to terms with the outcome. There are going to be tears regardless, might as well be in the comfort of my own home instead of at my office.


This works if you're truly able to let go of the hope, if you're not holding on to the idea that the beta may show a different result. Since I have heard of a couple stories where it did, I am then alternating between and desperate, unrealistic hope when I test early, so I don't.

Whatever works to lessen the pain, you should do, for some, that's testing early and knowing, for others, like me, it's having ONE definitive result.


SGFC tests no earlier than 13 days past 5 day transfer according to my nurse - there is no way that multiple HPTs are going to be negative and then someone would suddenly get a positive beta. That's the equivalent of 18 days past ovulation. The only time I've heard of the "surprise BFP beta" is when the beta is scheduled at 9dpt (which at some clinics is when the first beta is scheduled) - and even then it's extremely rare. Like unicorn rare.


Well, when you've actually met the unicorns, you will hold onto hope that maybe you'll get that lucky. GW tests 14 days after 2 day transfer, so 16dpo. My friend tested until 10 and 12 days past 2 day transfer, which is 12DPO and 14DPO and got a negative, yet a got a great beta when her blood test came up positive. Another fertility buddy tested negative the morning of her beta (donor egg, not sure what day) and yet got a BFP and now has a 9 month old daughter.
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Sorry, think a lot of these situations are urban myths and just serve to give false hope. If you're getting a "great beta" at 14 days past a 2 day transfer but tested negative the day of - or even before - then you either aren't using the HPT correctly or you have a defective HPT or you dont actually have a great beta score. Test or don't test at home, but some of these stories of women who got a BFN 18 days past ovulation on their HPT but get great beta scores are pure BS. FRER can pick up on 25 iu of HCG ... If it's negative the day of your beta and assuming it's not defective, you're not pregnant.
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For me, the HPT and Beta were all unnecessary as I know my body well enough to know that I wasn't preggo. I had severe PMS like I always do, complete with severe mood change, cramping, chocolate cravings etc. The tests just confirmed what I already knew. I am suprised others didn't know it was negative just based on PMS symptoms.
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Anonymous wrote:For me, the HPT and Beta were all unnecessary as I know my body well enough to know that I wasn't preggo. I had severe PMS like I always do, complete with severe mood change, cramping, chocolate cravings etc. The tests just confirmed what I already knew. I am suprised others didn't know it was negative just based on PMS symptoms.


Many people's first pregnancy symptoms are very much like pms. Spotting, cramping, bloating, headaches, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:For me, the HPT and Beta were all unnecessary as I know my body well enough to know that I wasn't preggo. I had severe PMS like I always do, complete with severe mood change, cramping, chocolate cravings etc. The tests just confirmed what I already knew. I am suprised others didn't know it was negative just based on PMS symptoms.


Many people's first pregnancy symptoms are very much like pms. Spotting, cramping, bloating, headaches, etc.


Sure but these symptoms are the result of all the progesterone in your body - not the HCG, at least not initially.
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I've noticed the symptoms are worse with progesterone supplementation. Those are not signs of pregnancy, just symptoms of higher progesterone.
Anonymous
Research has suggested that there are other things going on with your body in early pregnancy (from a chemical standpoint) besides just HCG and increased progesterone.

For example, see here:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_pregnancy_factor#section_2
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Research has suggested that there are other things going on with your body in early pregnancy (from a chemical standpoint) besides just HCG and increased progesterone.

For example, see here:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_pregnancy_factor#section_2



But this isn't what you feel in the couple of weeks following transfer (or ovulation). You feel the progesterone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Research has suggested that there are other things going on with your body in early pregnancy (from a chemical standpoint) besides just HCG and increased progesterone.

For example, see here:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_pregnancy_factor#section_2



But this isn't what you feel in the couple of weeks following transfer (or ovulation). You feel the progesterone.


I'm sure the progesterone is a big part of it, but my point is that there are also other things going on in your body (even pre-implantation) that could cause symptoms as well. There's still a lot about pregnancy that we don't know.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Research has suggested that there are other things going on with your body in early pregnancy (from a chemical standpoint) besides just HCG and increased progesterone.

For example, see here:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_pregnancy_factor#section_2



But this isn't what you feel in the couple of weeks following transfer (or ovulation). You feel the progesterone.


I'm sure the progesterone is a big part of it, but my point is that there are also other things going on in your body (even pre-implantation) that could cause symptoms as well. There's still a lot about pregnancy that we don't know.


The one and only time I was pregnant I had zero symptoms - nothing. No sore boobs, no cramping, no headache, not even bloating. I was on progesterone suppositories. My BFPs I have had "symptoms" but only those that could be attributes to progesterone because during my normal cycle (no IVF) I really don't have PMS symptoms.
Anonymous
Progesterone also lowers immune response.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Research has suggested that there are other things going on with your body in early pregnancy (from a chemical standpoint) besides just HCG and increased progesterone.

For example, see here:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_pregnancy_factor#section_2



But this isn't what you feel in the couple of weeks following transfer (or ovulation). You feel the progesterone.


I'm sure the progesterone is a big part of it, but my point is that there are also other things going on in your body (even pre-implantation) that could cause symptoms as well. There's still a lot about pregnancy that we don't know.


The one and only time I was pregnant I had zero symptoms - nothing. No sore boobs, no cramping, no headache, not even bloating. I was on progesterone suppositories. My BFPs I have had "symptoms" but only those that could be attributes to progesterone because during my normal cycle (no IVF) I really don't have PMS symptoms.


PP here - I meant to say that with my BFNs I've had "symptoms" but all related to progesterone
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sorry, think a lot of these situations are urban myths and just serve to give false hope. If you're getting a "great beta" at 14 days past a 2 day transfer but tested negative the day of - or even before - then you either aren't using the HPT correctly or you have a defective HPT or you dont actually have a great beta score. Test or don't test at home, but some of these stories of women who got a BFN 18 days past ovulation on their HPT but get great beta scores are pure BS. FRER can pick up on 25 iu of HCG ... If it's negative the day of your beta and assuming it's not defective, you're not pregnant.


Well, guess what, real life people disprove this. Sure the test may have been defective, or urine diluted, or there are some women who just don't register on the HPT that early, just as there are some for whom the OPKs don't work. But It. Still. Has. Happened. So many of us can't forget the example of the one or two or more that you know.

Sure it's rare, but since I've seen it with people I know, in the despair of a BFN on an HPT, I would be stuck hoping against hope, that the blood test would be different.

And why does it bother people so much when you decide waiting for the blood test is better for you? I've had people just about go off on me telling me I should "put myself out of my misery" by "just testing". Insisting they know what will be "best".

Mind your own f@#ing business, by now I know what works best for me in this miserable process. I do best waiting for the blood test. Everyone in my support group also waits.

If you want to test early YOU test early. No one is stopping YOU. Or arguing that it's best for you, since you say so.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, think a lot of these situations are urban myths and just serve to give false hope. If you're getting a "great beta" at 14 days past a 2 day transfer but tested negative the day of - or even before - then you either aren't using the HPT correctly or you have a defective HPT or you dont actually have a great beta score. Test or don't test at home, but some of these stories of women who got a BFN 18 days past ovulation on their HPT but get great beta scores are pure BS. FRER can pick up on 25 iu of HCG ... If it's negative the day of your beta and assuming it's not defective, you're not pregnant.


Well, guess what, real life people disprove this. Sure the test may have been defective, or urine diluted, or there are some women who just don't register on the HPT that early, just as there are some for whom the OPKs don't work. But It. Still. Has. Happened. So many of us can't forget the example of the one or two or more that you know.

Sure it's rare, but since I've seen it with people I know, in the despair of a BFN on an HPT, I would be stuck hoping against hope, that the blood test would be different.

And why does it bother people so much when you decide waiting for the blood test is better for you? I've had people just about go off on me telling me I should "put myself out of my misery" by "just testing". Insisting they know what will be "best".

Mind your own f@#ing business, by now I know what works best for me in this miserable process. I do best waiting for the blood test. Everyone in my support group also waits.

If you want to test early YOU test early. No one is stopping YOU. Or arguing that it's best for you, since you say so.


I wasn't suggesting that you should test early if you don't want to, only that it's complete bullshit that you test 14 days past a 5dt transfer, get a negative HPT (assuming it's not defective) and are going to get a fantastic beta score. You are not. So relax and please let go of some of your hostility.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, I know why I tested - because I was thinking how great it would be to get a positive. But of course I got a BFN - no hint of a line, no shadow, no nothing. So now I am upset that this round was a failure, but am still clinging to a little bit of hope that maybe it was too early. Which is making things even worse because I can't yet move on. Let this serve as a warning to others!


You warned, I ignored....6dp5dt and the stick couldn't have been more negative. Blurgh. Same with you, trying hard not to think this cycle is a failure...sigh...
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