Sarah Palin

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Anonymous wrote:As a liberal feminist, I have to add that I think it's WONDERFUL the Republicans are willing to nominate a working mom with an infant. Times have changed since the culture wars of the 1980's when Republican women weren't supposed to work. This is awesome. Too bad the liberals have moved backwards in this respect.


I think there are two levels of speculation (for me anyway). 1) Would I choose to be a governor with a husband who is not a SAHD when I had small children, especially a child with Down's syndrome (no) and do I think anyone should make that personal choice (no)? Best for both parents to be more involved and not have insanely demanding jobs but if it's not possible, at least one of them should be around, either working part-time or SAH. 2) Do I think people should be able to make their own decisions about these things (yes) and do I think that affects someone's ability to govern (no)? I don't share her Palin's views but if I did I wouldn't hesitate to vote for her.
Anonymous
I'd like to add that our wonderful Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton has a daughter with Downs Syndrome, and her husband was not a SAHD. She always worked in demanding jobs when her daughter was young, and DC residents benefited.
Anonymous
If McCain were to win, might Mr. Palin become a SAHM dad? His job is an oil production operator on Alaska's North Slope (according to CNN). If they move to Washington, I assume there aren't many oil production operator jobs around her and commuting back and forth between DC and AK would be a bit rough.

Maybe he would become a SAHD if she were to win. What would the other choice be? Split up the family?
Anonymous
I haven't seen any speculating on where the Palin children would go to school, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was the public school up the street from the Observatory.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'd like to add that our wonderful Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton has a daughter with Downs Syndrome, and her husband was not a SAHD. She always worked in demanding jobs when her daughter was young, and DC residents benefited.


True. IT can work and it is admirable. But let's face it -- very little travel is necessary for Norton. Long hours are different from massive travel in a job. I have done both, pre-kids. The travel is much worse. And I can only imagine when both are combined. It wouldn't be a reason not to vote for her, in my opinion, it just makes me realize her values are very different from mine. And I am a very educated feminist with lots of career ambition. But I wouldn't do that to my family at the point in life where she is.
Anonymous
Is McCain, he will become a SAHD, just like Michelle will has become a SAHM. HRC and Lynne Cheney and Marilyn Quayle all left their jobs after spouses election. Tipper GOre and Laura Bush were already not employed.
Rich
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Anonymous wrote:I don't share her Palin's views but if I did I wouldn't hesitate to vote for her.

Here is a view of hers that would prevent me from voting for her:
Palin’s conservative credentials certainly aren’t in question. Among other things, she has backed the teaching of “intelligent design” as an alternative to evolution. “I am a proponent of teaching both [evolution and intelligent design]," Palin said in a debate during her run for the governor’s office. "And, you know, I say this, too, as the daughter of a science teacher. Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject -- creationism and evolution."
Anonymous
I posted earlier and thought of another reason why I'm not entirely thrilled with the pick.

Putting on my flame suit as I know I will get scorched

I prefer my leaders to be a little bit more sophisticated. Not in the hunting and fishing sense, but academically. I see her education is a BS from the University of Idaho. I don't know - doesn't seem that impressive to me. Will she be able to hold her own against the heavyweights? Is she potentially too much of a lightweight intellectually?

Her resume seems like one of an everyday American. Which is all swell and good, but I don't know if I want an everyday, average American helping to run this country! I want someone who is intellectually above average, sophisticated in those types of dealings.

And yes - I consider myself an everyday, average Amercian. I wouldn't want me running this country.
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Rich wrote:You've all left out the most important thing: she was on a state champion basketball team in high school. McCain could not cede the basketball court to Obama and expect to win, could he?

Other than the dust-up about her brother-in-law, her reformist credentials are impeccable; she outdoes McCain at spitting in her party's face. But can a 100% pro-lifer win over HRC voters?


I love a reformer, first of all. But you asked about a 100% pro-lifer winning over HRC's supporters. Speaking only for me, Rich: I have never been comfortable with the Democratic Party's insistence on abortion as a key tenet upon which we're supposed to rest our identity as a party. I know this will be a very unpopular view on DCUM, but I have to be honest and say that, at times, our party has gone much further in this direction than I personally feel good about. I may be the only woman on this board who feels that way, and that's okay with me. Flame away. But since you asked an honest question, Rich, I wanted to give you an honest answer.


Well said. I too have become uncomfortable with the lengths the Democratic party has gone to get everyone in the boat. I cast my first vote for Jimmy Carter, and I have been a loyal supporter, but over the past 5 years, the liberal agenda has become a little hard to swallow whole.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I posted earlier and thought of another reason why I'm not entirely thrilled with the pick.

Putting on my flame suit as I know I will get scorched

I prefer my leaders to be a little bit more sophisticated. Not in the hunting and fishing sense, but academically. I see her education is a BS from the University of Idaho. I don't know - doesn't seem that impressive to me. Will she be able to hold her own against the heavyweights? Is she potentially too much of a lightweight intellectually?

Her resume seems like one of an everyday American. Which is all swell and good, but I don't know if I want an everyday, average American helping to run this country! I want someone who is intellectually above average, sophisticated in those types of dealings.

And yes - I consider myself an everyday, average Amercian. I wouldn't want me running this country.


Oh please. Are we going to hear on exmissions from your stupid overpriced schools now?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I posted earlier and thought of another reason why I'm not entirely thrilled with the pick.

Putting on my flame suit as I know I will get scorched

I prefer my leaders to be a little bit more sophisticated. Not in the hunting and fishing sense, but academically. I see her education is a BS from the University of Idaho. I don't know - doesn't seem that impressive to me. Will she be able to hold her own against the heavyweights? Is she potentially too much of a lightweight intellectually?

Her resume seems like one of an everyday American. Which is all swell and good, but I don't know if I want an everyday, average American helping to run this country! I want someone who is intellectually above average, sophisticated in those types of dealings.

And yes - I consider myself an everyday, average Amercian. I wouldn't want me running this country.


Not going to flame you, but you do realize that Joe Biden has a bachelor's degree from the University of Delaware, graduating near the bottom of his class, right? And that he graduated 76th in a class of 85 at Syracuse's law school? (This is according to the NYT.) There's a great video of him on You Tube from 1987, minus the hair plugs and very bald, lighting into a questioner by saying, "I think I have a much higher IQ than you do" and going on to lie about his academic record. All of this helped knock him out of the race in 1987. Forgive me, but none of that is very sophisticated. And your "hunting and fishing" remark is a little offensive, too. Some may find Biden sophisticated; I find him to be a blowhard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I posted earlier and thought of another reason why I'm not entirely thrilled with the pick.

Putting on my flame suit as I know I will get scorched

I prefer my leaders to be a little bit more sophisticated. Not in the hunting and fishing sense, but academically. I see her education is a BS from the University of Idaho. I don't know - doesn't seem that impressive to me. Will she be able to hold her own against the heavyweights? Is she potentially too much of a lightweight intellectually?

Her resume seems like one of an everyday American. Which is all swell and good, but I don't know if I want an everyday, average American helping to run this country! I want someone who is intellectually above average, sophisticated in those types of dealings.

And yes - I consider myself an everyday, average Amercian. I wouldn't want me running this country.


Oh please. Are we going to hear on exmissions from your stupid overpriced schools now?

Um, my eldest DD will be starting pre-school next week at a co-op and when she does go to school it most likely will be public. No fancy, overpriced schools here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I posted earlier and thought of another reason why I'm not entirely thrilled with the pick.

Putting on my flame suit as I know I will get scorched

I prefer my leaders to be a little bit more sophisticated. Not in the hunting and fishing sense, but academically. I see her education is a BS from the University of Idaho. I don't know - doesn't seem that impressive to me. Will she be able to hold her own against the heavyweights? Is she potentially too much of a lightweight intellectually?

Her resume seems like one of an everyday American. Which is all swell and good, but I don't know if I want an everyday, average American helping to run this country! I want someone who is intellectually above average, sophisticated in those types of dealings.

And yes - I consider myself an everyday, average Amercian. I wouldn't want me running this country.


Sounds like from Palin's experience, she can handle Washington. Good thing most of the American electorate is outside of the Beltway.
Rich
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Anonymous wrote:Oh please. Are we going to hear on exmissions from your stupid overpriced schools now?

I don't mean to make fun of your typo; I am genuinely unable to figure out what you intended to say. Could you explain?

On another point, this choice fits nicely in the Biden context. Biden punched home the message that Candidate McCain is not the maverick that Senator McCain was. Palin restores the maverick image. How the Senate will respond to being presided over by an unabashed whistle-blower will be interesting to watch, if McCain/Palin wins.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I see her education is a BS from the University of Idaho. I don't know - doesn't seem that impressive to me.


This is exactly why so many people will relate to her. She attended a public university. To me this means she values education but is not willing to pay a small fortune for the Ivy League label.
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