Sarah Palin

Rich
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You've all left out the most important thing: she was on a state champion basketball team in high school. McCain could not cede the basketball court to Obama and expect to win, could he?

Other than the dust-up about her brother-in-law, her reformist credentials are impeccable; she outdoes McCain at spitting in her party's face. But can a 100% pro-lifer win over HRC voters?
Anonymous
McCain is against drilling in ANWAR. He got his excuse to move forward by having Sara Palin as his running mate! Makes me want to VOMIT. Just what I've always DREAMED for my child-having to clean up a fucked up environment. Sorry for the language-the word ANWAR makes my blood boil.

Drilling in ANWAR isn't CHANGE-it's the SAME. Obama/Biden will offer CHANGE through alternative fuels. That is change!

Anonymous
Moderate here. Unlike all the other gentlemen in the race, she actually has EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE.

Hillary should get ready to announce her 2012 exploratory committee in November.
Anonymous
And I noticed that she belongs to Feminists for Life. Can a member of Feminists for Life win over the evangelicals?
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OP, I think it's going to be tough the question the "family values" of a woman with five kids who knew her last child would be born with Down Syndrome and refused to even consider terminating the pregnancy. No real winning angle for the Democrats there. And as the PP said, a tremendous role model for girls.


I don't get this. The measure of your commitment to family values isn't willingness to carry a baby to term-- it's willingness to give that baby the time and care it needs. I'm not saying the Dems should hit her hard there, but I do think it's an odd choice for someone with a 4 month old at home (and four other kids).

Here's someone who has 2 years of being governor of a small state (the entire state of AK doesn't have that many more people than DC, and many fewer than, say, MoCo), and already she's in trouble for abuse of office (allegedly firing a state trooper who was in a nasty divorce with her sister).


So you think Palin isn't giving the baby the care it needs? Do you work outside the home, PP? Do you think it's okay for mothers of children with disabilities to work outside the home?

The "abuse of office" thing isn't going to be a major problem, I don't think, given that it's a domestic violence case. I'm sure they'll spin it to her advantage.


I didn't say Palin isn't giving the baby the care it needs. What I am suggesting is that it will be hard to give the baby the care it needs while also having the time to be Vice President of the United States. I work outside the house, and I think it's fine for mothers and fathers to work outside the house as well (whether their children are disabled or not-- I wasn't referring to that at all). At the same time, I do make career decisions based on what is feasible to do at work and at home. I made a conscious decision not to work at a job that requires 60 hours a week because personally I didn't think that would give me enough time with my infant.

I don't think overall it's a major issue, but I do think it's odd to say that the fact that she carried the baby to term demonstrates her family values.

And I am so glad to learn that it's ok to use gov't powers for personal revenge if you think the person you are acting against isn't a nice guy. That view will fit right in with the torturers we've got now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Moderate here. Unlike all the other gentlemen in the race, she actually has EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE.

Hillary should get ready to announce her 2012 exploratory committee in November.


Her whole state has fewer people than Montgomery County, and she's only been in office for 2 years. Color me not impressed.
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OP, I think it's going to be tough the question the "family values" of a woman with five kids who knew her last child would be born with Down Syndrome and refused to even consider terminating the pregnancy. No real winning angle for the Democrats there. And as the PP said, a tremendous role model for girls.


I don't get this. The measure of your commitment to family values isn't willingness to carry a baby to term-- it's willingness to give that baby the time and care it needs. I'm not saying the Dems should hit her hard there, but I do think it's an odd choice for someone with a 4 month old at home (and four other kids).

Here's someone who has 2 years of being governor of a small state (the entire state of AK doesn't have that many more people than DC, and many fewer than, say, MoCo), and already she's in trouble for abuse of office (allegedly firing a state trooper who was in a nasty divorce with her sister).


So you think Palin isn't giving the baby the care it needs? Do you work outside the home, PP? Do you think it's okay for mothers of children with disabilities to work outside the home?

The "abuse of office" thing isn't going to be a major problem, I don't think, given that it's a domestic violence case. I'm sure they'll spin it to her advantage.


I didn't say Palin isn't giving the baby the care it needs. What I am suggesting is that it will be hard to give the baby the care it needs while also having the time to be Vice President of the United States. I work outside the house, and I think it's fine for mothers and fathers to work outside the house as well (whether their children are disabled or not-- I wasn't referring to that at all). At the same time, I do make career decisions based on what is feasible to do at work and at home. I made a conscious decision not to work at a job that requires 60 hours a week because personally I didn't think that would give me enough time with my infant.

I don't think overall it's a major issue, but I do think it's odd to say that the fact that she carried the baby to term demonstrates her family values.

And I am so glad to learn that it's ok to use gov't powers for personal revenge if you think the person you are acting against isn't a nice guy. That view will fit right in with the torturers we've got now.


A special needs child 4 months old-what is all that about?
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Anonymous wrote:Moderate here. Unlike all the other gentlemen in the race, she actually has EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE.

Hillary should get ready to announce her 2012 exploratory committee in November.


What do you mean by "executive experience"? That she's been governor for 2 years?
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Anonymous wrote:So you think Palin isn't giving the baby the care it needs? Do you work outside the home, PP? Do you think it's okay for mothers of children with disabilities to work outside the home?


I'm not the PP, but anybody with a brain knows there's a difference between working outside the home and running for/being frickin' Vice President of the United States. For the next four months (AT LEAST) she will either be dragging a four-month-old around the country on a grueling schedule where she'll have little or no time to dedicate to him OR she'll be leaving him behind while she's campaigning, essentially removing herself from his life for a third of his infancy. I'm a feminist, I work full time, my DD is in daycare, and I am genuinely aghast. I wasn't going to vote for McCain anyway, but I don't think I'm the only mother of an infant -- on either side of the aisle -- who is thinking this way right now.
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Yes.
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Why even talk about running for VP. Gosh, just being governor is a huge job! I wouldn't do it with an infant even if I was a dad with a SAHW.

But I don't think people should vote based on that.
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Anonymous wrote:Why even talk about running for VP. Gosh, just being governor is a huge job! I wouldn't do it with an infant even if I was a dad with a SAHW.



Well, I think being Governor does not require criss-crossing the country over the next 3 months.
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Anonymous wrote:So you think Palin isn't giving the baby the care it needs? Do you work outside the home, PP? Do you think it's okay for mothers of children with disabilities to work outside the home?


I'm not the PP, but anybody with a brain knows there's a difference between working outside the home and running for/being frickin' Vice President of the United States. For the next four months (AT LEAST) she will either be dragging a four-month-old around the country on a grueling schedule where she'll have little or no time to dedicate to him OR she'll be leaving him behind while she's campaigning, essentially removing herself from his life for a third of his infancy. I'm a feminist, I work full time, my DD is in daycare, and I am genuinely aghast. I wasn't going to vote for McCain anyway, but I don't think I'm the only mother of an infant -- on either side of the aisle -- who is thinking this way right now.


There actually are, in this day and age, husbands who stay home and raise children. So much for feminism on this board that often appears to slant Democractic.
Anonymous
Right but I'm assuming it requires being in the office long long hours. Plus criss-crossing Alaska? -- Not exactly Delaware.
jsteele
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I posted in another thread that the choice of Palin is going to lead to the mother of all WM vs SAHM debates. Those that believe it is absolutely necessary for mothers to be home with infants will have difficulty reconciling that belief with the grueling schedule of a VP candidate.

Another thought occurred to me. Viewing Sarah Palin's appointment as leading to an advancement of women's rights and seeing her as a stand-in for Hillary Clinton is much like viewing the appointment of Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court has leading to an advancement for justice for the African American community and his being a stand-in for Thurgood Marshall.




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