I follow Catholic teaching on contraception. Ask me anything.

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Freedom is not about doing what you want, but choosing what is right? Presumably there is only one "right" course of action. So where is the freedom if you have only one option to achieve this freedom? Not sure I follow your logic on this. Freedom = no choice other than the "right" choice? Doesn't sound very freeing to me.
Anonymous
PP, I am with you and I am Catholic too. I am just astonished that you make love daily. I am tooo tired to do that! How do you do it???? I am seriously in awe. I need some tips bc I apparently have to pick up my game.
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Anonymous wrote:Please explain how thos makes sense in a way other than men trying to control women's bodies.


Quite the opposite. This is empowering to women, while contraception results in men controlling women, body, heart, mind, and soul.

When sex is inextricably linked to the possibility of procreation, the full power of a woman is present. Think of it this way: if a man walks up to a woman in a bar and says, "I want to have sex with you," that is one thing. If a man walks up to a woman in a bar and says, "I want to have a baby with you," that is something entirely different. Because making love and possibly creating a new life is heavy. It requires commitment, fidelity, vulnerability, trust, patience, courage, and mutual respect. The woman is not an object to be used, but a whole person.It is both the man and the woman who are required to control their bodies if they are not ready for the possibility of a new life when the woman does not use artificial contraception. Mutual communication and respect is essential.

Anyone who reads DCUM for any length of time sees the fallout of contraceptive sex: disagreements about having another baby. Resentment because one partner wanted a baby more than the other. No sex drive. Feeling used when TTC.

This is not a random rule, like driving on the right side of the road. This is the essence, the real truth, of the meaning of sex. If sex is disrespected, if its full meaning is not appreciated, then negative consequences follow.

So it is not about control, but about freedom. Freedom is not about doing whatever you want, but about choosing to do what is right.



Utter bullshit!!!!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do you care whether other people take contraception? Do you think that employers should be able to intervene as to what contraceptives are available to their employees? Why not just let the employee use their own conscience to decide whether to take contraception?


I do care, in the same way I care when people do anything harmful to themselves. Contraception violates the true meaning of sex, and has negative consequences. But we all have free will to do what we think is right--at least, in this country. China, not so much.

Employers should be free to determine which benefits they offer. It frustrates me to no end that my husband's health insurance does not cover CPMs, but that is their choice.

And employees can follow their own conscience regarding contraception. They just need to pay for it themselves. No employer in this country is making contraception unavailable to their employees; it is available everywhere.
Anonymous
What is so wrong with wanting to have sex with your husband without wanting to procreate?

And if one spouse is known to be incapable of conceiving, does that mean you can never have sex, since sex is solely for procreating?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you care whether other people take contraception? Do you think that employers should be able to intervene as to what contraceptives are available to their employees? Why not just let the employee use their own conscience to decide whether to take contraception?


I do care, in the same way I care when people do anything harmful to themselves. Contraception violates the true meaning of sex, and has negative consequences. But we all have free will to do what we think is right--at least, in this country. China, not so much.

Employers should be free to determine which benefits they offer. It frustrates me to no end that my husband's health insurance does not cover CPMs, but that is their choice.

And employees can follow their own conscience regarding contraception. They just need to pay for it themselves. No employer in this country is making contraception unavailable to their employees; it is available everywhere.


This is all opinion, not fact, so therefore, you're not correcting any misinformation out there, just stating your opinion.
Anonymous
What's a CPM? (?)
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who reads DCUM for any length of time sees the fallout of contraceptive sex: disagreements about having another baby. Resentment because one partner wanted a baby more than the other. No sex drive. Feeling used when TTC.


Wow, these things never happen in families that don't use birth control? I had no idea that not using birth control immediately teleported you into a 50s sitcom, since that's the only place where this is true.


Anonymous wrote:So it is not about control, but about freedom. Freedom is not about doing whatever you want, but about choosing to do what is right.


I think you need to re-examine the meaning of the word "freedom". Freedom is not "choosing to do what is right." A more correct definition is that freedom is the ability to choose to do what you believe is right, although the true definition is much more involved than that. "Right" is a highly subjective term, and while there may be some areas with general agreement, there are always going to be grey areas with disagreements.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Freedom is not about doing what you want, but choosing what is right? Presumably there is only one "right" course of action. So where is the freedom if you have only one option to achieve this freedom? Not sure I follow your logic on this. Freedom = no choice other than the "right" choice? Doesn't sound very freeing to me.


This would require a longish discussion of natural law, but briefly:

We have free will. We can choose to align our will with the natural order of creation, or to step outside of the natural order. When we choose to go against natural law, there are negative consequences that follow. When we choose to follow natural law, and only then, we can have true joy and peace.

The temptation is always the same: that our will, set against natural law, will somehow result in something better. But that is a lie.

So we are free to choose good or evil. But actual freedom is only found in doing good. Choosing to do what is wrong is actually slavery.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Freedom is not about doing what you want, but choosing what is right? Presumably there is only one "right" course of action. So where is the freedom if you have only one option to achieve this freedom? Not sure I follow your logic on this. Freedom = no choice other than the "right" choice? Doesn't sound very freeing to me.


This would require a longish discussion of natural law, but briefly:

We have free will. We can choose to align our will with the natural order of creation, or to step outside of the natural order. When we choose to go against natural law, there are negative consequences that follow. When we choose to follow natural law, and only then, we can have true joy and peace.

The temptation is always the same: that our will, set against natural law, will somehow result in something better. But that is a lie.

So we are free to choose good or evil. But actual freedom is only found in doing good. Choosing to do what is wrong is actually slavery.


Well, gee, thank you for clearing up that misinformation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What is so wrong with wanting to have sex with your husband without wanting to procreate?

And if one spouse is known to be incapable of conceiving, does that mean you can never have sex, since sex is solely for procreating?


One last response for now, because my break is almost up...

Sex is not solely for procreating. This is the greatest bit of misinformation out there about Church teaching.

Sex is unitive and procreative by its very nature. But women are only fertile during childbearing years, and even then, only a few days a month, at most. Both men and women can suffer from infertility. So the vast majority of the time, sex is not ACTUALLY procreative.

But it needs to be respected for its complete meaning, every time. So even when it is definitely infertile sex--like during a pregnancy--its meaning remains. It is a physical restatement of the marriage vows: I give myself to you totally, freely, completely, nothing held back.

Will stop by later...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:With so much misinformation out there, I wanted to make myself available for questions. Peace!


Did you ever want to have a career or extra money?
Anonymous
I think you and I disagree on the meaning of "natural law."

Where is that ranting atheist? She should get in on this.
Anonymous
Do you believe that masturbation is a sin?
Anonymous
We have free will. We can choose to align our will with the natural order of creation, or to step outside of the natural order. When we choose to go against natural law, there are negative consequences that follow. When we choose to follow natural law, and only then, we can have true joy and peace.


Do you consider taking ibuprofen for a fever "stepping outside the natural order?" Do you think taking folic acid while pregnant "going against natural law?"

And another question - are you Crazy 9 Baby Lady?
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