What's up with Krauthammer?!

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[Post New]07/18/2008 10:35
Anonymous
If the Post is supposed to be such a liberal paper, why is it that every time I bring up washingtonpost.com I see a new op-ed headline blasting Obama? It's getting old.
[Post New]07/18/2008 10:39
Anonymous
Obama does seem to stick in Krauthammer's craw, doesn't he? Makes me think there's some history there, like Obama snubbed him or something. Or it could just be that Krauthammer thinks he's the only one who "sees through" Obama and feels compelled to point it out to the rest of us. Over and over again.
[Post New]07/18/2008 15:29
Anonymous
Many of the Post's regular op-ed columnists are conservative. Krauthammer is a former psychiatrist and I think he recognizes Obama's narcissism.
[Post New]07/18/2008 16:13
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:Many of the Post's regular op-ed columnists are conservative. Krauthammer is a former psychiatrist and I think he recognizes Obama's narcissism.


Or maybe Krauthammer is just another Hillary supporter who resents that she didn't win the nomination that was rightfully hers (at least in her supporters' minds)?

I had to laugh when I read this sentence:

"Nonetheless, has there ever been a presidential nominee with a wider gap between his estimation of himself and the sum total of his lifetime achievements?"

Why yes, yes there has. His name is George W. Bush. Here is a guy who never succeeded in anything in his entire life (repeatedly being bailed out by his daddy and daddy's friends) and has the dubious distinction of being the least popular president in US history. Yet, to hear him tell it, he is the next Harry Truman. Obama may have placed a seal including a Latin translation of his campaign motto on a lectern, but Bush appropriated an entire aircraft carrier on which he landed in a fighter jet to triumphantly display his codpiece like a victorious Roman emperor. Who is more deluded and narcissistic -- Obama, who has been welcomed by Berlin's mayor to speak at the Brandenburg Gate -- or Bush, who declared "Mission Accomplished" over five years ago?

[Post New]07/18/2008 16:19
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:[
I had to laugh when I read this sentence:

"Nonetheless, has there ever been a presidential nominee with a wider gap between his estimation of himself and the sum total of his lifetime achievements?"

Why yes, yes there has. His name is George W. Bush.



Why is it that - every time someone brings up the legitimate issue of Obama's experience - the comeback is to cite George W. Bush? For God's sake, that's not reassuring!
[Post New]07/18/2008 16:28
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:[
I had to laugh when I read this sentence:

"Nonetheless, has there ever been a presidential nominee with a wider gap between his estimation of himself and the sum total of his lifetime achievements?"

Why yes, yes there has. His name is George W. Bush.



Why is it that - every time someone brings up the legitimate issue of Obama's experience - the comeback is to cite George W. Bush? For God's sake, that's not reassuring!


Yes, I guess that's setting the bar very low!
[Post New]07/18/2008 16:42
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:
Why is it that - every time someone brings up the legitimate issue of Obama's experience - the comeback is to cite George W. Bush? For God's sake, that's not reassuring!


Krauthammer asked "has there ever been a presidential nominee". He didn't ask "has there ever been a presidential nominee other than George W. Bush". Try to pay attention and you won't get confused.

Moreover, why is it that the failed Republican administration of George W. Bush is something that we are all supposed to ignore and act like it didn't happen? McCain is following Bush's policies almost to a "T". The best indication of future performance is past performance. Given that Bush has been such a failure that Republicans treat him like a crazy uncle hidden in the basement, why should we expect McCain will succeed with the same policies?

And, for the other poster, yes the bar is low. But, I didn't ask the question. Krauthammer asked the question. He apparently didn't understand just how low the bar is, but that's his problem.


[Post New]07/18/2008 19:30
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Why is it that - every time someone brings up the legitimate issue of Obama's experience - the comeback is to cite George W. Bush? For God's sake, that's not reassuring!


Krauthammer asked "has there ever been a presidential nominee". He didn't ask "has there ever been a presidential nominee other than George W. Bush". Try to pay attention and you won't get confused.



This in no way answers my original question - which was in fact rhetorical. I am not confused. I am making the point that, as Democrats, we need to come up with a better answer than this if we really want to win the presidential election.
[Post New]07/18/2008 22:12
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This in no way answers my original question - which was in fact rhetorical. I am not confused. I am making the point that, as Democrats, we need to come up with a better answer than this if we really want to win the presidential election.


Your original posting said
If the Post is supposed to be such a liberal paper

but if the Post is "liberal", it's a Joe Lieberman liberal. They have a wide variety of columnists, from Dionne, Ignatius, and Cohen, who I suppose get classified as liberal, to Krauthapper, Gerson, and Novak, on the conservative side, if those labels mean anything [that's another thread]. But if you have any expectation that the Post will push a liberal agenda as the Times pushes a conservative agenda, I think you will be sorely disappointed.

RH
[Post New]07/18/2008 22:24
Anonymous
This is going to be the most un-PC thing I have ever written: Krauthammer is a racist.

I have been watching him for 20 odd years, and I thought it at first, and I still think it to be true.
[Post New]07/19/2008 11:01
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This in no way answers my original question - which was in fact rhetorical. I am not confused. I am making the point that, as Democrats, we need to come up with a better answer than this if we really want to win the presidential election.


Your original posting said
If the Post is supposed to be such a liberal paper

but if the Post is "liberal", it's a Joe Lieberman liberal. They have a wide variety of columnists, from Dionne, Ignatius, and Cohen, who I suppose get classified as liberal, to Krauthapper, Gerson, and Novak, on the conservative side, if those labels mean anything [that's another thread]. But if you have any expectation that the Post will push a liberal agenda as the Times pushes a conservative agenda, I think you will be sorely disappointed.

RH


You are responding to two authors. I was not the OP of this thread, just the OP of the rhetorical question about why the response to questions about Obama's experience is always a citation of W. Bush.
[Post New]07/19/2008 16:40
jsteele
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[quote=Anonymous
This in no way answers my original question - which was in fact rhetorical. I am not confused. I am making the point that, as Democrats, we need to come up with a better answer than this if we really want to win the presidential election.

When you posted your original question, you quoted my message. Yet, I was not doing what you accuse me of doing. Krauthammer did not simply criticize Obama's experience and I did not simply criticize Bush's experience in response. Krauthammer asked a specific question and I answered that question. Therefore, your "rhetorical question" is a red herring.

Please explain why we have to find a way of answering the question "[H]as there ever been a presidential nominee with a wider gap between his estimation of himself and the sum total of his lifetime achievements?" that doesn't involve George Bush? If you prefer to discuss how to answer a different question, that's fine, but that's a different discussion.


[Post New]07/20/2008 14:13
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This in no way answers my original question - which was in fact rhetorical. I am not confused. I am making the point that, as Democrats, we need to come up with a better answer than this if we really want to win the presidential election.


Your original posting said
If the Post is supposed to be such a liberal paper

but if the Post is "liberal", it's a Joe Lieberman liberal. They have a wide variety of columnists, from Dionne, Ignatius, and Cohen, who I suppose get classified as liberal, to Krauthapper, Gerson, and Novak, on the conservative side, if those labels mean anything [that's another thread]. But if you have any expectation that the Post will push a liberal agenda as the Times pushes a conservative agenda, I think you will be sorely disappointed.

RH


Agreed. "Joe Lieberman" liberal is the best way to describe the Post -- which means NOT VERY!
[Post New]07/20/2008 15:20
Rich
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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. "Joe Lieberman" liberal is the best way to describe the Post -- which means NOT VERY!

I dub them Lieberlibs. On the opposite side, there are Hagelcons.
[Post New]07/21/2008 11:25
Anonymous
Hmmmmm. Maybe I just have an exceptionally low opinion of myself, but if, by my mid-forties, I had:

Been elected President of the Harvard Law Review;
Worked for a very prestigious law firm;
Gave up that lucrative work to do organizing on the streets of Chicago -- with success;
Gone on to work for a prestigious civil rights firm -- with success;
Become involved in Chicago politics, without the help of any political ties in Chicago;
Was elected to the Chicago state legislature;
Had the mettle to run for a Senate Seat, lose, and learn important lessons from that loss that made me a better candidate;
Written two books that have made me millions;
Was asked to be a law lecturer at the University of Chicago (one of the greatest schools in the country);
Married someone intelligent, kind and very physically attractive;
Had two great kids AND
Ate healthy and stayed in great shape

Well, I'd feel pretty high on myself too.

Maybe Krauthammer feels threatened by Barack. Makes him insecure.
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