3 MS in Ward 5, but we can't have 2 in Ward 3?

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[Post New]11/27/2011 12:08
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Long enough to recognize another "poor" suffering Palisades parent when we see one.

Hardy is there, open and waiting for you. Make it work and stop your first world complaints. They are tiresome.


Ward 5 is not in the first world? Harsh!
[Post New]11/27/2011 14:14
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Anonymous
I live in Ward 4 and understand the parents of Ward 2/3, even though Hardy is an "in boundary school" it's also a specialized school where there is an application process where a regular feeder school doesn't have this. It's like saying all in boundary students for Bannaker should apply and go there and it's not possible because you have to get accepted.....same with Hardy and any other specialized school.
[Post New]11/27/2011 14:24
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Anonymous
Ward 5 is not in the first world? Harsh!


Um, there's nothing about Ward 5 in that post. It solely referenced the spoiled Palisades parents who keep whining they don't have a MS, when they do.

Read more carefully next time.
[Post New]11/27/2011 14:26
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jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:I live in Ward 4 and understand the parents of Ward 2/3, even though Hardy is an "in boundary school" it's also a specialized school where there is an application process where a regular feeder school doesn't have this. It's like saying all in boundary students for Bannaker should apply and go there and it's not possible because you have to get accepted.....same with Hardy and any other specialized school.


This is not correct. First of all, Hardy was never officially a specialized school. While Pope was principal, it developed an arts and music specialization and had an application. While Pope expected inbound families to complete the application, they were automatically accepted. While I have heard inbound families say Pope discouraged them from attending the school, I have never heard of an inbound student being refused admission. You can bet that had such a thing happened, all of us would have heard of it. Moreover, all of this is moot given that after Pope was removed, the application was dropped.

Pope was removed in order to address the desires of inbound parents. Now, inbound parents have a new list of complaints. But, those have nothing to do with Hardy being specialized or having an application.
[Post New]11/27/2011 14:31
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Anonymous
I live in Ward 4 and understand the parents of Ward 2/3, even though Hardy is an "in boundary school" it's also a specialized school where there is an application process where a regular feeder school doesn't have this. It's like saying all in boundary students for Bannaker should apply and go there and it's not possible because you have to get accepted.....same with Hardy and any other specialized school.


Actually, the Hardy website does not mention any specialized application process for IB or OOB students. I know it used to have an specialized application under Pope, but I heard that has been discontinued. Can anyone who actually knows confirm this?

[Post New]11/27/2011 14:32
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Until Hardy is full of inboundary students, you have not proven that there is demand for an additional middle school.

I notice the interview requirement is no longer detailed on the Hardy website. Admission is now described as inboundary, show up with your paperwork, OOB enter the lottery.

That's what you all want, right?


Isn't this the beginning and end of the discussion? There's an existing middle school that is not fully enrolled with in-bounds middle school students. Why on earth should DCPS build another middle school in that same in-bounds area?

I also agree with a PP that the juxtaposition of ward boundaries with school noundaries is silly. Schools don't follow wards, and they shouldn't.
[Post New]11/27/2011 14:40
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Anonymous
14:31 here. Thanks for the clarification, jsteele.
[Post New]11/27/2011 16:44
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Long enough to recognize another "poor" suffering Palisades parent when we see one.

Hardy is there, open and waiting for you. Make it work and stop your first world complaints. They are tiresome.


Ward 5 is not in the first world? Harsh!



So griping about having only a k-8 middle school is not a 'first world' complaint, but complaining about not being able to use the only stand-alone MS in your ward is. Got it.

[Post New]11/27/2011 16:46
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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Until Hardy is full of inboundary students, you have not proven that there is demand for an additional middle school.

I notice the interview requirement is no longer detailed on the Hardy website. Admission is now described as inboundary, show up with your paperwork, OOB enter the lottery.

That's what you all want, right?


Isn't this the beginning and end of the discussion? There's an existing middle school that is not fully enrolled with in-bounds middle school students. Why on earth should DCPS build another middle school in that same in-bounds area?

I also agree with a PP that the juxtaposition of ward boundaries with school noundaries is silly. Schools don't follow wards, and they shouldn't.


Then why was parents griping about not having a stand-alone MS in ward 5 considered a legitimate gripe? They can just go to another ward? What is the problem?
[Post New]11/27/2011 16:49
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

So griping about having only a k-8 middle school is not a 'first world' complaint, but complaining about not being able to use the only stand-alone MS in your ward is. Got it.

why can't they use it? it's open, it's recently redone, it's got seats available....the principal and program they were fighting against is gone....
I'm very puzzled, here
[Post New]11/27/2011 16:58
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Then why was parents griping about not having a stand-alone MS in ward 5 considered a legitimate gripe? They can just go to another ward? What is the problem?
I guess the problem is that the middle school they USED to have has closed for good....
Imagine if the Hardy community one day woke up and Hardy was closed....there'd be angst, right?
[Post New]11/27/2011 16:59
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

So griping about having only a k-8 middle school is not a 'first world' complaint, but complaining about not being able to use the only stand-alone MS in your ward is. Got it.

why can't they use it? it's open, it's recently redone, it's got seats available....the principal and program they were fighting against is gone....
I'm very puzzled, here


Wrong. Only some students in ward 3 can go to the only MS in ward 3.
[Post New]11/27/2011 17:28
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

So griping about having only a k-8 middle school is not a 'first world' complaint, but complaining about not being able to use the only stand-alone MS in your ward is. Got it.

why can't they use it? it's open, it's recently redone, it's got seats available....the principal and program they were fighting against is gone....
I'm very puzzled, here


Wrong. Only some students in ward 3 can go to the only MS in ward 3.


and the rest of ward three students can go to the school that is in-bounds for them, Hardy-, which is in ward 2 - because it's closer than the ward 3 school (Deal).

To repeat - school bounds are not assigned by ward; they are assigned by proximity to your home, which is sometimes a school in your ward and sometimes is not.

So - middle school students who live in the various neigborhoods of ward 3 have 2 in-bounds schools - Deal and Hardy.

[Post New]11/27/2011 17:30
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

So griping about having only a k-8 middle school is not a 'first world' complaint, but complaining about not being able to use the only stand-alone MS in your ward is. Got it.

why can't they use it? it's open, it's recently redone, it's got seats available....the principal and program they were fighting against is gone....
I'm very puzzled, here


Wrong. Only some students in ward 3 can go to the only MS in ward 3.


and the rest of ward three students can go to the school that is in-bounds for them, Hardy-, which is in ward 2 - because it's closer than the ward 3 school (Deal).

To repeat - school bounds are not assigned by ward; they are assigned by proximity to your home, which is sometimes a school in your ward and sometimes is not.

So - middle school students who live in the various neigborhoods of ward 3 have 2 in-bounds schools - Deal and Hardy.



Exactly. So what are ward 5 parents complaining about? They could go to their in-bounds school, which was not in ward 5 but that should not be a problem? So why did DCPS bend over backwards for them?
[Post New]11/27/2011 17:45
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Anonymous
Ward 5's problem wasn't that kids were sent to a middle school in another ward. It's that all the elementary schools in the ward were made into campuses that went through 8th grade, so options like better science labs or multiple foreign languages weren't available except through the OOB process.
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