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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Empress MIchelle's husband and none of her family has served in the US miklitary. At least, Jill Biden's step son has served. In any case, what office does either hold that should be respected? None. Michelle serves dinner to the homeless in $500.00 athletic shoes. For the honeless and hungry, I offer thanks for the crumbs from your table, Empress Bountiful. Also the veteran and his family were not booed. Another fact is that the "rednecks" you look down on are the ones who make up a large segment of the military. When you've served your country in its armed forces then you have the right to criticize, until then, shut up. Speaking as someone whose family has served this country in the military and diplomatic corps for many generations.

Sorry, but I will rely on the Constitution for my rights to free speech rather than your conditions. I will criticize whomever I damn well please. Right now, I feel like criticizing you. Michelle Obama has more class in her pinky then you have in your entire body.

In this season of Thanksgiving, I have yet another thing to give thanks for, that iI have never seen, nor will ever see, your entire body, clothed or naked, nor The pinky of Empress.

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:
With the super wankers failing to reach an agreement on the budget, the automatic cuts are scheduled to take a chunk out of the military's hide. We will be hearing a lot from conservatives about how this is tragedy that must be reversed and how liberals don't support the military. But, this episode shows just how little conservatives really care about those who serve their country.

Booing is only the tip of the iceberg.
The supercommittee, at the behest of Republicans such as John McCain, has been advocating cutting the military's health care benefits. Because while the interests of Raytheon, Lockheed Martin are sacrosanct, the actual people who serve are there to be thrown under the bus. Remember McCain was also the guy who opposed the GI bill on grounds that we can't afford it.

http://www.insurance-forums.net/forum/senior-insurance-forum/tricare-super-committee-you-serious-t36369.html

Watch it on Colbert, and laugh...or cry?

http://www.colbertnation.com/full-episodes/thu-november-17-2011-susan-orlean
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/18/1037675/-Stephen-Colbert-RIPS-Super-Congress-for-screwing-with-veterans

If you're a service member and you vote Republican, you are only getting what you deserve

Do you not understand that the president and Panetta support changes to Tricare? Colbert doesn't seem to get it either. I'm a Democrat, BTW. Google the NYT and Tricare to read more about this.

jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:Personally I think anyone can boo whomever they want to boo. Moreover, I would not only expect conservatives to disagree with Mrs. Obama and Dr. Biden, I understand their disagreement. But, in this case, the two women were standing with a veteran and his family and Obama and Biden were there to promote military families. So, I don't think the story is a bunch of yahoos booing two women that I would expect them to boo. Rather, it is the fact that a crowd of red-blooded American patriots decided to boo a veteran during an effort to rally support for military families. If it had been liberals booing the military, Fox News would have it on endless loop and Congress would be considering a resolution of condemnation.

With the super wankers failing to reach an agreement on the budget, the automatic cuts are scheduled to take a chunk out of the military's hide. We will be hearing a lot from conservatives about how this is tragedy that must be reversed and how liberals don't support the military. But, this episode shows just how little conservatives really care about those who serve their country.

http://news.yahoo.com/michelle-obama-dr-jill-biden-draw-boos-nascar-232438819.html

The article states that Michelle Obama and Jill Biden were introduced they received a smattering of boos.When the military veteran was introduced, he received resounding applause.

I watched the video. The soldier was introduced first and received applause. Then he, his family, Obama, and Biden were all presented to start the race. That when the boos started. Obviously, the boos were aimed at Obama and Biden. But, the presentation of the grand marshals -- the announcement that was booed, included the soldier and his family. Moreover, the purpose of the 1st and 2nd ladies at the event was not a love of auto racing, but to help support military families. It is impossible to argue that the boos were for a specific purpose separate from the context of what was happening. The bottom line is that an effort to bring attention to the need to support military families was booed. Also, based on what I could hear in the video, it was hardly a smattering of boos. It was quite loud and I couldn't hear any applause.

I respectfully disagree, the purpose was to move into red state territory and try to save Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia and West Virginia for Obama/Biden (male/male). So no, I do not at all agree with your bottom line, but you are welcome to your opinion. Perhaps the audience was still smarting from "You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

The Empress MIchelle's husband and none of her family has served in the US miklitary.

Obama's uncle liberated Buchenwald. Or do you still think his entire family is from Kenya?

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I respectfully disagree, the purpose was to move into red state territory and try to save Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia and West Virginia for Obama/Biden (male/male). So no, I do not at all agree with your bottom line, but you are welcome to your opinion. Perhaps the audience was still smarting from "You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

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Anonymous wrote:

I respectfully disagree, the purpose was to move into red state territory and try to save Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia and West Virginia for Obama/Biden (male/male). So no, I do not at all agree with your bottom line, but you are welcome to your opinion. Perhaps the audience was still smarting from "You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

They were in Florida. Nowhere near Pennsylvania or Ohio. Michelle Obama chose supporting military familes as her personal cause from the very beginning of the administration. She has been all over the country in support of that cause. Maybe you feel that is nothing more than a re-election ploy and, as you said to me, you are welcome to your opinion. When Laura Bush chose to focus on reading, she was not subject to similar charges. I assume she occasionally read to children in blue states. But, your response shows great solidarity with the those who booed the two women. You are so consumed by your dislike of them that you cannot get beyond it to see that they are doing something that you would otherwise support (unless you are also part of the anti-military right). There was very little about George W. Bush that I liked, but even I could acknowledge that he made a positive contribution to the fight against AIDS in Africa. It would never enter my mind to boo him at an event where he promoted that fight, let alone attempt to justify someone else's booing.

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I realize this sounds hard to believe, but NASCAR broadcasts can be found in every radio market in PA, OH, WV, VA, NC etc. every Sunday they are running. Really, people not only listen to it, the live for it.

And I don't dislike either of the ladies, I just reject your logic that booing them constitutes disrespect for the military because the reason they were there was to show support for military. IMO that was not the reason they were there at all, any more than I believe that Tareq and Michaele Salahi crashed the White House dinner because they were hungry (although it was a dinner). They were there to show their blue collar creds to boost their spouses reelection efforts, period. NASCAR fans ARE the military - so I would conclude that the crowd's perception was much like mine, and that the booing was because they were White House surrogates and had zip, zero, nada to do with the military. But again, you are welcome to your opinion, I don't think it much bothers those NASCAR fans

Anonymous wrote:I think it's appalling to boo Michele O or Laura B. I would never dream of doing either. I hate Bush but I wouldn't boo him. Too disrespectful.

Anonymous wrote:The Empress MIchelle's husband and none of her family has served in the US miklitary.

Obama's uncle liberated Buchenwald. Or do you still think his entire family is from Kenya?