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Anonymous wrote:According to Alan Dershowitz, there are two judges in Manhattan blocking things.

What's interesting to me is once again Democrats are eager to tie Epstein to Trump.

Seems everything else they've been doing has struck out, so now they are trying to split Trump from MAGA with Epstein.

Do you believe it's some kind of leap to tie Epstein to Trump? They were demonstrably close friends.

I think if there were a true smoking gun that linked Trump to Epstein level wrongdoings, that info would have very likely been leaked by now. Obviously, the network of of powerful folks who ran in the same circles as Epstein includes many, many people and some of who may be financial backers of our two major parties and that may have something to do with these files not being released. It would be interesting to see what a Congressional vote on this matter would look like if that vote took place tomorrow.

Anonymous wrote:You can tell the GOP talking points went out yesterday because suddenly even those Republicans who were very pro-release the files no matter what have flip-flopped.

And all the messages they are posting on X are roughly the same.

The only one who seems to be standing strong in her release them stance is MTG. I never thought there'd be a day when I'd agree with Large Marge. I mean, you know you done effed up when MTG is no longer in your corner.

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Anonymous wrote:According to Alan Dershowitz, there are two judges in Manhattan blocking things.

What's interesting to me is once again Democrats are eager to tie Epstein to Trump.

Seems everything else they've been doing has struck out, so now they are trying to split Trump from MAGA with Epstein.

Do you believe it's some kind of leap to tie Epstein to Trump? They were demonstrably close friends.

I think if there were a true smoking gun that linked Trump to Epstein level wrongdoings, that info would have very likely been leaked by now. Obviously, the network of of powerful folks who ran in the same circles as Epstein includes many, many people and some of who may be financial backers of our two major parties and that may have something to do with these files not being released. It would be interesting to see what a Congressional vote on this matter would look like if that vote took place tomorrow.

Anonymous wrote:I regularly listen to Ben. Love him, but he's heavily biased toward Israel. I am pro Israel, but not in the kind of way where I turn a blind eye to their espionage. Ben's immediate "shut it down" response to this episode makes me think that the theory that it was an Israeli op is probably correct. He was just too eager to tell everyone it was just some guy who diddled teens.

That said, I don't think there is such a list as a "client list". Even serial killers don't make lists of their victims. I think this is a red herring issue because what we really want to know is, who were the clients? Or probably more accurately, who did Epstein set up and extort? We already know he did it to Bill Gates with that Russian bridge player who hangs around Russian spies. Is Bill the only one? I doubt it.

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Anonymous wrote:I regularly listen to Ben. Love him, but he's heavily biased toward Israel. I am pro Israel, but not in the kind of way where I turn a blind eye to their espionage. Ben's immediate "shut it down" response to this episode makes me think that the theory that it was an Israeli op is probably correct. He was just too eager to tell everyone it was just some guy who diddled teens.

That said, I don't think there is such a list as a "client list". Even serial killers don't make lists of their victims. I think this is a red herring issue because what we really want to know is, who were the clients? Or probably more accurately, who did Epstein set up and extort? We already know he did it to Bill Gates with that Russian bridge player who hangs around Russian spies. Is Bill the only one? I doubt it.

Obviously the "list" is just a starting point of the powerful people who socialized with Epstein. Forensic accounting to dig onto where his money came from, his client lists when working in finance, intense questioning of the people who gave him sweetheart deals because he was "intelligence", public release of documents related to any settlements paid to women who accused Epstein, Trump or his associates.

If she could avoid assassination I'd like to see Ghislaine Maxwell get a lesser sentence if she would name names.

Anonymous wrote:How do we plebes get a copy of the GOP talking points. Does someone leak them? Do they arrive in a big red envelope that will self-destruct after reading?