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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Folks, as a general rule we are uncomfortable with, and therefore are likely to delete, posts from anonymous posters that criticize identifiable individuals. Invariably, the targets of such anonymous posts complain that they are being defamed. We receive subpoenas requiring us to provide the IP addresses of posters on a fairly regular basis. It is my experience that some individuals who believe that they have been libeled are willing to go to great expense pursuiing legal action. Posters who believed that they were anonymous have, in fact, been identified and subject to legal action in the past.

As a result, to save ourselves the headache of responding to subpoenas and the posters here from being dragged into court, we try to remove posts that criticize identifiable individuals. Lately posters appear to have been under the impression that using initials somehow avoids this issue. It does not.

You are free to say whatever you want about whomever you want on this website as long as you identify yourself in a verifiable manner. As long as a lawyer can contact you directly and leave me out if it, I'll let you write whatever you want (with a few exceptions such as death threats). But I am not going to be your legal protection.

All of you, of course, have free speech rights. You are welcome to exercise those rights on your own website. On this website, you are expected to abide by our rules. A failure to do so will likely result, in a minimum, of your posts being removed

You have removed posts with one particular person's initials. Can you also remove posts containing others' initials and job titles? Lots of talk here about older heads of school, division heads, interim heads, admissions staff, athletic director, etc. Would be very easy to look in the school's faculty directory and see exactly who those people are.

To be fair, there are still posts with that person’s initials and identifiable references to that person.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Folks, as a general rule we are uncomfortable with, and therefore are likely to delete, posts from anonymous posters that criticize identifiable individuals. Invariably, the targets of such anonymous posts complain that they are being defamed. We receive subpoenas requiring us to provide the IP addresses of posters on a fairly regular basis. It is my experience that some individuals who believe that they have been libeled are willing to go to great expense pursuiing legal action. Posters who believed that they were anonymous have, in fact, been identified and subject to legal action in the past.

As a result, to save ourselves the headache of responding to subpoenas and the posters here from being dragged into court, we try to remove posts that criticize identifiable individuals. Lately posters appear to have been under the impression that using initials somehow avoids this issue. It does not.

You are free to say whatever you want about whomever you want on this website as long as you identify yourself in a verifiable manner. As long as a lawyer can contact you directly and leave me out if it, I'll let you write whatever you want (with a few exceptions such as death threats). But I am not going to be your legal protection.

All of you, of course, have free speech rights. You are welcome to exercise those rights on your own website. On this website, you are expected to abide by our rules. A failure to do so will likely result, in a minimum, of your posts being removed

You have removed posts with one particular person's initials. Can you also remove posts containing others' initials and job titles? Lots of talk here about older heads of school, division heads, interim heads, admissions staff, athletic director, etc. Would be very easy to look in the school's faculty directory and see exactly who those people are.

To be fair, there are still posts with that person’s initials and identifiable references to that person.

True. It just feels like the removals were disproportionately affecting mentions of one individual. Therefore people discussing that one individual were disproportionately silenced, and some real useful info in those posts was lost. If the site admins want to avoid legal action, avoid it from everybody.

Anonymous wrote:Why anyone would stay after this debacle is mind-blowing to me. People care romanticizing an SSFS they WANT to remember, not the one that exists. Saving this particular version of SSFS is a noble endeavor, but not responsible. IF the money is actually put forth to run the school for the next few years, what about the actual repairs that the school is in dire need of. Will kids still be in jackets in the athletic center in the winter and have fans in the summer? The HVAC system won’t replace itself. They are one more repair from closure.

Keep trying to hold this place on by its shoestrings. I taught there. I know the dysfunction you are trying to resurrect. You will need full pay families to keep you afloat. You have too many families there bleeding you dry. You also have too many families there that don’t actually align with the Quaker values and were there for athletics or a reduced education and it actively took away from those students and families who walked the walked and believed in the SPICES.

I don’t want anyone to be without a job or a school, but I think it’s time to move on from that cesspool. I am so glad I have. The stress is now gone. While I know RG wasn’t the full cause of the debt, he WAS the cause of the recent mass exodus of talented teachers and administrators that lead to families pulling out. Add in a terrible admissions employee at key grades from 6-9 that was alienating to families and staff and you have yourself a million reasons why this school is failing.

It’s time to move on.
Anyone who stays gets what they deserve - leftovers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Folks, as a general rule we are uncomfortable with, and therefore are likely to delete, posts from anonymous posters that criticize identifiable individuals. Invariably, the targets of such anonymous posts complain that they are being defamed. We receive subpoenas requiring us to provide the IP addresses of posters on a fairly regular basis. It is my experience that some individuals who believe that they have been libeled are willing to go to great expense pursuiing legal action. Posters who believed that they were anonymous have, in fact, been identified and subject to legal action in the past.

As a result, to save ourselves the headache of responding to subpoenas and the posters here from being dragged into court, we try to remove posts that criticize identifiable individuals. Lately posters appear to have been under the impression that using initials somehow avoids this issue. It does not.

You are free to say whatever you want about whomever you want on this website as long as you identify yourself in a verifiable manner. As long as a lawyer can contact you directly and leave me out if it, I'll let you write whatever you want (with a few exceptions such as death threats). But I am not going to be your legal protection.

All of you, of course, have free speech rights. You are welcome to exercise those rights on your own website. On this website, you are expected to abide by our rules. A failure to do so will likely result, in a minimum, of your posts being removed

You have removed posts with one particular person's initials. Can you also remove posts containing others' initials and job titles? Lots of talk here about older heads of school, division heads, interim heads, admissions staff, athletic director, etc. Would be very easy to look in the school's faculty directory and see exactly who those people are.

To be fair, there are still posts with that person’s initials and identifiable references to that person.

True. It just feels like the removals were disproportionately affecting mentions of one individual. Therefore people discussing that one individual were disproportionately silenced, and some real useful info in those posts was lost. If the site admins want to avoid legal action, avoid it from everybody.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Folks, as a general rule we are uncomfortable with, and therefore are likely to delete, posts from anonymous posters that criticize identifiable individuals. Invariably, the targets of such anonymous posts complain that they are being defamed. We receive subpoenas requiring us to provide the IP addresses of posters on a fairly regular basis. It is my experience that some individuals who believe that they have been libeled are willing to go to great expense pursuiing legal action. Posters who believed that they were anonymous have, in fact, been identified and subject to legal action in the past.

As a result, to save ourselves the headache of responding to subpoenas and the posters here from being dragged into court, we try to remove posts that criticize identifiable individuals. Lately posters appear to have been under the impression that using initials somehow avoids this issue. It does not.

You are free to say whatever you want about whomever you want on this website as long as you identify yourself in a verifiable manner. As long as a lawyer can contact you directly and leave me out if it, I'll let you write whatever you want (with a few exceptions such as death threats). But I am not going to be your legal protection.

All of you, of course, have free speech rights. You are welcome to exercise those rights on your own website. On this website, you are expected to abide by our rules. A failure to do so will likely result, in a minimum, of your posts being removed

You have removed posts with one particular person's initials. Can you also remove posts containing others' initials and job titles? Lots of talk here about older heads of school, division heads, interim heads, admissions staff, athletic director, etc. Would be very easy to look in the school's faculty directory and see exactly who those people are.

Anonymous wrote:This. Ssfs would be thriving if parents were able to apply a portion of their government school taxes toward private school tuition payments.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People claimed he likened SSFS to a plantation.

That is false.

He said, “Independent schools were built to replicate a plantation mentality.”

That is true.

Enrollment in private schools spiked after Brown vs BOE, as white families fled public schools.

https://southerneducation.org/publications/history-of-private-schools-and-race-in-the-american-south

This is a complex and nuanced topic, not easily discussed in a forum like this. However, the independent school experience—even at well respected liberal schools—is not as rosy for kids of color as it is for white kids.

See any of the @blackatXXX IG pages. There’s even one for SSFS.

https://www.instagram.com/blackatssfs

This isn’t only an SSFS problem. It’s likely worse at other schools that are less diverse and inclusive. But it doesn’t mean there is no racism, either overt or covert, at SSFS.

+1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Folks, as a general rule we are uncomfortable with, and therefore are likely to delete, posts from anonymous posters that criticize identifiable individuals. Invariably, the targets of such anonymous posts complain that they are being defamed. We receive subpoenas requiring us to provide the IP addresses of posters on a fairly regular basis. It is my experience that some individuals who believe that they have been libeled are willing to go to great expense pursuiing legal action. Posters who believed that they were anonymous have, in fact, been identified and subject to legal action in the past.

As a result, to save ourselves the headache of responding to subpoenas and the posters here from being dragged into court, we try to remove posts that criticize identifiable individuals. Lately posters appear to have been under the impression that using initials somehow avoids this issue. It does not.

You are free to say whatever you want about whomever you want on this website as long as you identify yourself in a verifiable manner. As long as a lawyer can contact you directly and leave me out if it, I'll let you write whatever you want (with a few exceptions such as death threats). But I am not going to be your legal protection.

All of you, of course, have free speech rights. You are welcome to exercise those rights on your own website. On this website, you are expected to abide by our rules. A failure to do so will likely result, in a minimum, of your posts being removed

You have removed posts with one particular person's initials. Can you also remove posts containing others' initials and job titles? Lots of talk here about older heads of school, division heads, interim heads, admissions staff, athletic director, etc. Would be very easy to look in the school's faculty directory and see exactly who those people are.

To be fair, there are still posts with that person’s initials and identifiable references to that person.

True. It just feels like the removals were disproportionately affecting mentions of one individual. Therefore people discussing that one individual were disproportionately silenced, and some real useful info in those posts was lost. If the site admins want to avoid legal action, avoid it from everybody.

Well maybe only one individual is afraid of truth coming out and threatens legal action

Anonymous wrote:I signed up for coalition but haven’t received anything yet. Maybe because I didn’t say I could offer anything (money services) only wanted to stay in the loop?

In any case has the coalition addressed what happens to fin aid families? If the school returns im assuming it’s only going to be an option for families who can pay in full? Also will the tuition still stay the same next year? What’s the plan can anywhere provide insight?

Anonymous wrote: Lack of diversity and inclusivity are only half the problem, if that. The fact that wealthy benefactors raised millions overnight so that snowflakes don't have to go to public school pretty much sums up the privilege of private schools. Our community would be a better place if the wealthy were as eager to donate to legal defense for migrants being deported without due process, medical services for the poor in our community, food banks, or any other myriad causes I can think of.

Anonymous wrote:
I agree with all of this. The school looks to be only close to being redirected with the rejects - students and faculty - but limping along. I don’t understand why ppl are so desperate to stay here. We live in an area with so many options in education- why hold on to this one?

I too am moving on, I wish people the best, but I would never advise my friends to stay or go here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why anyone would stay after this debacle is mind-blowing to me. People care romanticizing an SSFS they WANT to remember, not the one that exists. Saving this particular version of SSFS is a noble endeavor, but not responsible. IF the money is actually put forth to run the school for the next few years, what about the actual repairs that the school is in dire need of. Will kids still be in jackets in the athletic center in the winter and have fans in the summer? The HVAC system won’t replace itself. They are one more repair from closure.

Keep trying to hold this place on by its shoestrings. I taught there. I know the dysfunction you are trying to resurrect. You will need full pay families to keep you afloat. You have too many families there bleeding you dry. You also have too many families there that don’t actually align with the Quaker values and were there for athletics or a reduced education and it actively took away from those students and families who walked the walked and believed in the SPICES.

I don’t want anyone to be without a job or a school, but I think it’s time to move on from that cesspool. I am so glad I have. The stress is now gone. While I know RG wasn’t the full cause of the debt, he WAS the cause of the recent mass exodus of talented teachers and administrators that lead to families pulling out. Add in a terrible admissions employee at key grades from 6-9 that was alienating to families and staff and you have yourself a million reasons why this school is failing.

It’s time to move on.
Anyone who stays gets what they deserve - leftovers.

I agree with all of this. The school looks to be only close to being redirected with the rejects - students and faculty - but limping along. I don’t understand why ppl are so desperate to stay here. We live in an area with so many options in education- why hold on to this one?

I too am moving on, I wish people the best, but I would never advise my friends to stay or go here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I agree with all of this. The school looks to be only close to being redirected with the rejects - students and faculty - but limping along. I don’t understand why ppl are so desperate to stay here. We live in an area with so many options in education- why hold on to this one?

I too am moving on, I wish people the best, but I would never advise my friends to stay or go here.

Have we really sunk to calling students (children!) “rejects”? Are you really okay with insulting your own kids’ classmates and friends just to make a point?

Please do the very thing you insist others should: move on.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I signed up for coalition but haven’t received anything yet. Maybe because I didn’t say I could offer anything (money services) only wanted to stay in the loop?

In any case has the coalition addressed what happens to fin aid families? If the school returns im assuming it’s only going to be an option for families who can pay in full? Also will the tuition still stay the same next year? What’s the plan can anywhere provide insight?

They unfortunately have had email trouble (being a new about and sending mass emails I think) but they are working hard to fix that.