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Anonymous wrote:Um…a lot of the Baltimore parents I know are 1%ers

Agree. Confused by the reaction here. Why wouldn’t those with means put those resources to work helping their kids attend the best academic schools they can to secure their futures?

Of course you would. The point is if you can’t afford the school, you are not going.

But this is about lacrosse and no reasonable person is going to argue that VA has anywhere near the talent at any ‘28 that M&D, Coppermine and Hero’s have. An all star team of the MD team at ‘28 would wipe the floor with the VA kids. So, we’ll see how ‘28 does. My bet is the MD kids will be just fine.

It is about lacrosse, a game many players use to put them on a flight path to attend a great academic school which will set them up for the rest of their lives. To deny this is to misunderstand the very reason why so many play the sport.

That is one reason but for you, it is the only reason. You likely make the game joyless for your 8th grader with your relentless emphasis on college recruiting. Get them to love the game first for the joy of playing and if she has talent, she’ll be fine. The top talent at ‘28 (for the country) is clearly in MD.

If you believe I’m pushing your stated view on my DD, you’re doing the same thing by pushing the rank-is-everything / we’re-better-than-you-at-lacrosse mantra on yours. To this end, should we assume the incessant narrative you push should be held to a higher standard than being a supportive parent, helping them through wins (and yes losses), championing their work in the classroom, encouraging them to be goal-oriented beyond the field, and being selfless in providing every resource we as parents have to set them up for lifelong success? Or is being number one, or three, or five more important than these virtues?

I use the rankings as empirical evidence that at 2028 MD is light years ahead of VA in terms of talent. You imply that Capital historically has better success than MD clubs placing girls at top 20 or Ivies and that recruiting is what this is all about. Since you cannot read between the lines, I will explain to you in basic terms: the overwhelming majority of talent in the area is on MDU, M&D, Hero’s, Coppermine and Crush. All 5 are ranked in the top 10. No VA team is in the top 10 but Pride is sniffing it (at I think, 14th but with no huge standout player). Stars is a non-entity in the high ‘30s. Capital is good at recruiting, they are not miracle workers. ‘28 will not be a good year for Capital recruiting based on all available evidence and MD girls should do much better.

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Anonymous wrote:Um…a lot of the Baltimore parents I know are 1%ers

Respectfully, any kid who is smart enough these days can attend an Ivy or other top academic. Intelligence is the limiting factor at these schools, not financial considerations.

Respectfully, this doesn’t make any sense.

At Harvard, for example, families with incomes below $85,000 are not expected to contribute to the cost of their child's education. Roughly 24% of Harvard families have total incomes less than $85,000. The top academic schools do not turn anyone away for financial reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:Um…a lot of the Baltimore parents I know are 1%ers

Agree. Confused by the reaction here. Why wouldn’t those with means put those resources to work helping their kids attend the best academic schools they can to secure their futures?

Of course you would. The point is if you can’t afford the school, you are not going.

But this is about lacrosse and no reasonable person is going to argue that VA has anywhere near the talent at any ‘28 that M&D, Coppermine and Hero’s have. An all star team of the MD team at ‘28 would wipe the floor with the VA kids. So, we’ll see how ‘28 does. My bet is the MD kids will be just fine.

It is about lacrosse, a game many players use to put them on a flight path to attend a great academic school which will set them up for the rest of their lives. To deny this is to misunderstand the very reason why so many play the sport.

That is one reason but for you, it is the only reason. You likely make the game joyless for your 8th grader with your relentless emphasis on college recruiting. Get them to love the game first for the joy of playing and if she has talent, she’ll be fine. The top talent at ‘28 (for the country) is clearly in MD.

If you believe I’m pushing your stated view on my DD, you’re doing the same thing by pushing the rank-is-everything / we’re-better-than-you-at-lacrosse mantra on yours. To this end, should we assume the incessant narrative you push should be held to a higher standard than being a supportive parent, helping them through wins (and yes losses), championing their work in the classroom, encouraging them to be goal-oriented beyond the field, and being selfless in providing every resource we as parents have to set them up for lifelong success? Or is being number one, or three, or five more important than these virtues?

I use the rankings as empirical evidence that at 2028 MD is light years ahead of VA in terms of talent. You imply that Capital historically has better success than MD clubs placing girls at top 20 or Ivies and that recruiting is what this is all about. Since you cannot read between the lines, I will explain to you in basic terms: the overwhelming majority of talent in the area is on MDU, M&D, Hero’s, Coppermine and Crush. All 5 are ranked in the top 10. No VA team is in the top 10 but Pride is sniffing it (at I think, 14th but with no huge standout player). Stars is a non-entity in the high ‘30s. Capital is good at recruiting, they are not miracle workers. ‘28 will not be a good year for Capital recruiting based on all available evidence and MD girls should do much better.

One more shutdown for Maryland man before we call it a day...here goes:

Capital recruiting will be just fine for the 2028 class, as it has been consistently. The argument that 2028 will be a weak recruiting year for Capital because no Virginia club is ranked higher than the Baltimore top 5, is entirely unpersuasive, as that has been the case almost every year. And yet Capital has still been able to put together very strong teams, with very strong recruiting results.

The 2025 class experience is directly on point. PP notes that the top 2028 VA team is Pride at #14 followed by Stars in the high 30s. Guess how the 2025 class at those clubs finished their 8th grade season--Pride at #13 and Stars at #38! That's almost exactly where we are now. The top players on those teams went on to Capital, and the Capital 2025 team is now ranked #1 in the country.

Here is a snapshot of how they are doing on recruiting so far: UNC; Duke (2); Johns Hopkins (2); Michigan; Notre Dame; Denver; Florida; Dartmouth; Stanford; Navy; Colorado; VA Tech; Colgate; Cincinnati; Marquette etc. That's 7 to programs in the preseason top 20 for lacrosse; and 11 to universities ranked in the top 21 academically.

The big Maryland clubs did well too, of course, but the Cap Blue 2025 recruiting class is as good or better than any in the country. I explain this case, not to convince the PP, who is beyond rational engagement or help, but for the sincere folks who read this thread trying to understand the lacrosse landscape.

One more bone of contention: there are several standouts on Pride. Maybe not yet at the level of the big 3 middies at Coppermine, the top middie at Hero's, or a couple players at M&D and Eagle Stix, but very good players, who will get recruited to great schools and do quite well. Come back and check this post in 3 years.

Lastly, I hope the good players and kids beyond the top 3-4 at Coppermine, or 1-2 at Crush or at MDU get good looks in the recruiting process. Those programs don't have the recruiting track records of Hero's or M&D, or Capital, for that matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Um…a lot of the Baltimore parents I know are 1%ers

Agree. Confused by the reaction here. Why wouldn’t those with means put those resources to work helping their kids attend the best academic schools they can to secure their futures?

Of course you would. The point is if you can’t afford the school, you are not going.

But this is about lacrosse and no reasonable person is going to argue that VA has anywhere near the talent at any ‘28 that M&D, Coppermine and Hero’s have. An all star team of the MD team at ‘28 would wipe the floor with the VA kids. So, we’ll see how ‘28 does. My bet is the MD kids will be just fine.

It is about lacrosse, a game many players use to put them on a flight path to attend a great academic school which will set them up for the rest of their lives. To deny this is to misunderstand the very reason why so many play the sport.

That is one reason but for you, it is the only reason. You likely make the game joyless for your 8th grader with your relentless emphasis on college recruiting. Get them to love the game first for the joy of playing and if she has talent, she’ll be fine. The top talent at ‘28 (for the country) is clearly in MD.

If you believe I’m pushing your stated view on my DD, you’re doing the same thing by pushing the rank-is-everything / we’re-better-than-you-at-lacrosse mantra on yours. To this end, should we assume the incessant narrative you push should be held to a higher standard than being a supportive parent, helping them through wins (and yes losses), championing their work in the classroom, encouraging them to be goal-oriented beyond the field, and being selfless in providing every resource we as parents have to set them up for lifelong success? Or is being number one, or three, or five more important than these virtues?

I use the rankings as empirical evidence that at 2028 MD is light years ahead of VA in terms of talent. You imply that Capital historically has better success than MD clubs placing girls at top 20 or Ivies and that recruiting is what this is all about. Since you cannot read between the lines, I will explain to you in basic terms: the overwhelming majority of talent in the area is on MDU, M&D, Hero’s, Coppermine and Crush. All 5 are ranked in the top 10. No VA team is in the top 10 but Pride is sniffing it (at I think, 14th but with no huge standout player). Stars is a non-entity in the high ‘30s. Capital is good at recruiting, they are not miracle workers. ‘28 will not be a good year for Capital recruiting based on all available evidence and MD girls should do much better.

One more shutdown for Maryland man before we call it a day...here goes:

Capital recruiting will be just fine for the 2028 class, as it has been consistently. The argument that 2028 will be a weak recruiting year for Capital because no Virginia club is ranked higher than the Baltimore top 5, is entirely unpersuasive, as that has been the case almost every year. And yet Capital has still been able to put together very strong teams, with very strong recruiting results.

The 2025 class experience is directly on point. PP notes that the top 2028 VA team is Pride at #14 followed by Stars in the high 30s. Guess how the 2025 class at those clubs finished their 8th grade season--Pride at #13 and Stars at #38! That's almost exactly where we are now. The top players on those teams went on to Capital, and the Capital 2025 team is now ranked #1 in the country.

Here is a snapshot of how they are doing on recruiting so far: UNC; Duke (2); Johns Hopkins (2); Michigan; Notre Dame; Denver; Florida; Dartmouth; Stanford; Navy; Colorado; VA Tech; Colgate; Cincinnati; Marquette etc. That's 7 to programs in the preseason top 20 for lacrosse; and 11 to universities ranked in the top 21 academically.

The big Maryland clubs did well too, of course, but the Cap Blue 2025 recruiting class is as good or better than any in the country. I explain this case, not to convince the PP, who is beyond rational engagement or help, but for the sincere folks who read this thread trying to understand the lacrosse landscape.

One more bone of contention: there are several standouts on Pride. Maybe not yet at the level of the big 3 middies at Coppermine, the top middie at Hero's, or a couple players at M&D and Eagle Stix, but very good players, who will get recruited to great schools and do quite well. Come back and check this post in 3 years.

Lastly, I hope the good players and kids beyond the top 3-4 at Coppermine, or 1-2 at Crush or at MDU get good looks in the recruiting process. Those programs don't have the recruiting track records of Hero's or M&D, or Capital, for that matter.

Good post

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Anonymous wrote:Um…a lot of the Baltimore parents I know are 1%ers

Agree. Confused by the reaction here. Why wouldn’t those with means put those resources to work helping their kids attend the best academic schools they can to secure their futures?

Of course you would. The point is if you can’t afford the school, you are not going.

But this is about lacrosse and no reasonable person is going to argue that VA has anywhere near the talent at any ‘28 that M&D, Coppermine and Hero’s have. An all star team of the MD team at ‘28 would wipe the floor with the VA kids. So, we’ll see how ‘28 does. My bet is the MD kids will be just fine.

It is about lacrosse, a game many players use to put them on a flight path to attend a great academic school which will set them up for the rest of their lives. To deny this is to misunderstand the very reason why so many play the sport.

That is one reason but for you, it is the only reason. You likely make the game joyless for your 8th grader with your relentless emphasis on college recruiting. Get them to love the game first for the joy of playing and if she has talent, she’ll be fine. The top talent at ‘28 (for the country) is clearly in MD.

If you believe I’m pushing your stated view on my DD, you’re doing the same thing by pushing the rank-is-everything / we’re-better-than-you-at-lacrosse mantra on yours. To this end, should we assume the incessant narrative you push should be held to a higher standard than being a supportive parent, helping them through wins (and yes losses), championing their work in the classroom, encouraging them to be goal-oriented beyond the field, and being selfless in providing every resource we as parents have to set them up for lifelong success? Or is being number one, or three, or five more important than these virtues?

I use the rankings as empirical evidence that at 2028 MD is light years ahead of VA in terms of talent. You imply that Capital historically has better success than MD clubs placing girls at top 20 or Ivies and that recruiting is what this is all about. Since you cannot read between the lines, I will explain to you in basic terms: the overwhelming majority of talent in the area is on MDU, M&D, Hero’s, Coppermine and Crush. All 5 are ranked in the top 10. No VA team is in the top 10 but Pride is sniffing it (at I think, 14th but with no huge standout player). Stars is a non-entity in the high ‘30s. Capital is good at recruiting, they are not miracle workers. ‘28 will not be a good year for Capital recruiting based on all available evidence and MD girls should do much better.

One more shutdown for Maryland man before we call it a day...here goes:

Capital recruiting will be just fine for the 2028 class, as it has been consistently. The argument that 2028 will be a weak recruiting year for Capital because no Virginia club is ranked higher than the Baltimore top 5, is entirely unpersuasive, as that has been the case almost every year. And yet Capital has still been able to put together very strong teams, with very strong recruiting results.

The 2025 class experience is directly on point. PP notes that the top 2028 VA team is Pride at #14 followed by Stars in the high 30s. Guess how the 2025 class at those clubs finished their 8th grade season--Pride at #13 and Stars at #38! That's almost exactly where we are now. The top players on those teams went on to Capital, and the Capital 2025 team is now ranked #1 in the country.

Here is a snapshot of how they are doing on recruiting so far: UNC; Duke (2); Johns Hopkins (2); Michigan; Notre Dame; Denver; Florida; Dartmouth; Stanford; Navy; Colorado; VA Tech; Colgate; Cincinnati; Marquette etc. That's 7 to programs in the preseason top 20 for lacrosse; and 11 to universities ranked in the top 21 academically.

The big Maryland clubs did well too, of course, but the Cap Blue 2025 recruiting class is as good or better than any in the country. I explain this case, not to convince the PP, who is beyond rational engagement or help, but for the sincere folks who read this thread trying to understand the lacrosse landscape.

One more bone of contention: there are several standouts on Pride. Maybe not yet at the level of the big 3 middies at Coppermine, the top middie at Hero's, or a couple players at M&D and Eagle Stix, but very good players, who will get recruited to great schools and do quite well. Come back and check this post in 3 years.

Lastly, I hope the good players and kids beyond the top 3-4 at Coppermine, or 1-2 at Crush or at MDU get good looks in the recruiting process. Those programs don't have the recruiting track records of Hero's or M&D, or Capital, for that matter.

Good post

Dude: we all know it is you posting just before 1am “good post” on your own post. You’ve been rebuked to the point you call MD kids dumb. You are a disgrace.

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Anonymous wrote:Um…a lot of the Baltimore parents I know are 1%ers

Agree. Confused by the reaction here. Why wouldn’t those with means put those resources to work helping their kids attend the best academic schools they can to secure their futures?

Of course you would. The point is if you can’t afford the school, you are not going.

But this is about lacrosse and no reasonable person is going to argue that VA has anywhere near the talent at any ‘28 that M&D, Coppermine and Hero’s have. An all star team of the MD team at ‘28 would wipe the floor with the VA kids. So, we’ll see how ‘28 does. My bet is the MD kids will be just fine.

It is about lacrosse, a game many players use to put them on a flight path to attend a great academic school which will set them up for the rest of their lives. To deny this is to misunderstand the very reason why so many play the sport.

That is one reason but for you, it is the only reason. You likely make the game joyless for your 8th grader with your relentless emphasis on college recruiting. Get them to love the game first for the joy of playing and if she has talent, she’ll be fine. The top talent at ‘28 (for the country) is clearly in MD.

If you believe I’m pushing your stated view on my DD, you’re doing the same thing by pushing the rank-is-everything / we’re-better-than-you-at-lacrosse mantra on yours. To this end, should we assume the incessant narrative you push should be held to a higher standard than being a supportive parent, helping them through wins (and yes losses), championing their work in the classroom, encouraging them to be goal-oriented beyond the field, and being selfless in providing every resource we as parents have to set them up for lifelong success? Or is being number one, or three, or five more important than these virtues?

I use the rankings as empirical evidence that at 2028 MD is light years ahead of VA in terms of talent. You imply that Capital historically has better success than MD clubs placing girls at top 20 or Ivies and that recruiting is what this is all about. Since you cannot read between the lines, I will explain to you in basic terms: the overwhelming majority of talent in the area is on MDU, M&D, Hero’s, Coppermine and Crush. All 5 are ranked in the top 10. No VA team is in the top 10 but Pride is sniffing it (at I think, 14th but with no huge standout player). Stars is a non-entity in the high ‘30s. Capital is good at recruiting, they are not miracle workers. ‘28 will not be a good year for Capital recruiting based on all available evidence and MD girls should do much better.

One more shutdown for Maryland man before we call it a day...here goes:

Capital recruiting will be just fine for the 2028 class, as it has been consistently. The argument that 2028 will be a weak recruiting year for Capital because no Virginia club is ranked higher than the Baltimore top 5, is entirely unpersuasive, as that has been the case almost every year. And yet Capital has still been able to put together very strong teams, with very strong recruiting results.

The 2025 class experience is directly on point. PP notes that the top 2028 VA team is Pride at #14 followed by Stars in the high 30s. Guess how the 2025 class at those clubs finished their 8th grade season--Pride at #13 and Stars at #38! That's almost exactly where we are now. The top players on those teams went on to Capital, and the Capital 2025 team is now ranked #1 in the country.

Here is a snapshot of how they are doing on recruiting so far: UNC; Duke (2); Johns Hopkins (2); Michigan; Notre Dame; Denver; Florida; Dartmouth; Stanford; Navy; Colorado; VA Tech; Colgate; Cincinnati; Marquette etc. That's 7 to programs in the preseason top 20 for lacrosse; and 11 to universities ranked in the top 21 academically.

The big Maryland clubs did well too, of course, but the Cap Blue 2025 recruiting class is as good or better than any in the country. I explain this case, not to convince the PP, who is beyond rational engagement or help, but for the sincere folks who read this thread trying to understand the lacrosse landscape.

One more bone of contention: there are several standouts on Pride. Maybe not yet at the level of the big 3 middies at Coppermine, the top middie at Hero's, or a couple players at M&D and Eagle Stix, but very good players, who will get recruited to great schools and do quite well. Come back and check this post in 3 years.

Lastly, I hope the good players and kids beyond the top 3-4 at Coppermine, or 1-2 at Crush or at MDU get good looks in the recruiting process. Those programs don't have the recruiting track records of Hero's or M&D, or Capital, for that matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Um…a lot of the Baltimore parents I know are 1%ers

Agree. Confused by the reaction here. Why wouldn’t those with means put those resources to work helping their kids attend the best academic schools they can to secure their futures?

Of course you would. The point is if you can’t afford the school, you are not going.

But this is about lacrosse and no reasonable person is going to argue that VA has anywhere near the talent at any ‘28 that M&D, Coppermine and Hero’s have. An all star team of the MD team at ‘28 would wipe the floor with the VA kids. So, we’ll see how ‘28 does. My bet is the MD kids will be just fine.

It is about lacrosse, a game many players use to put them on a flight path to attend a great academic school which will set them up for the rest of their lives. To deny this is to misunderstand the very reason why so many play the sport.

That is one reason but for you, it is the only reason. You likely make the game joyless for your 8th grader with your relentless emphasis on college recruiting. Get them to love the game first for the joy of playing and if she has talent, she’ll be fine. The top talent at ‘28 (for the country) is clearly in MD.

If you believe I’m pushing your stated view on my DD, you’re doing the same thing by pushing the rank-is-everything / we’re-better-than-you-at-lacrosse mantra on yours. To this end, should we assume the incessant narrative you push should be held to a higher standard than being a supportive parent, helping them through wins (and yes losses), championing their work in the classroom, encouraging them to be goal-oriented beyond the field, and being selfless in providing every resource we as parents have to set them up for lifelong success? Or is being number one, or three, or five more important than these virtues?

I use the rankings as empirical evidence that at 2028 MD is light years ahead of VA in terms of talent. You imply that Capital historically has better success than MD clubs placing girls at top 20 or Ivies and that recruiting is what this is all about. Since you cannot read between the lines, I will explain to you in basic terms: the overwhelming majority of talent in the area is on MDU, M&D, Hero’s, Coppermine and Crush. All 5 are ranked in the top 10. No VA team is in the top 10 but Pride is sniffing it (at I think, 14th but with no huge standout player). Stars is a non-entity in the high ‘30s. Capital is good at recruiting, they are not miracle workers. ‘28 will not be a good year for Capital recruiting based on all available evidence and MD girls should do much better.

One more shutdown for Maryland man before we call it a day...here goes:

Capital recruiting will be just fine for the 2028 class, as it has been consistently. The argument that 2028 will be a weak recruiting year for Capital because no Virginia club is ranked higher than the Baltimore top 5, is entirely unpersuasive, as that has been the case almost every year. And yet Capital has still been able to put together very strong teams, with very strong recruiting results.

The 2025 class experience is directly on point. PP notes that the top 2028 VA team is Pride at #14 followed by Stars in the high 30s. Guess how the 2025 class at those clubs finished their 8th grade season--Pride at #13 and Stars at #38! That's almost exactly where we are now. The top players on those teams went on to Capital, and the Capital 2025 team is now ranked #1 in the country.

Here is a snapshot of how they are doing on recruiting so far: UNC; Duke (2); Johns Hopkins (2); Michigan; Notre Dame; Denver; Florida; Dartmouth; Stanford; Navy; Colorado; VA Tech; Colgate; Cincinnati; Marquette etc. That's 7 to programs in the preseason top 20 for lacrosse; and 11 to universities ranked in the top 21 academically.

The big Maryland clubs did well too, of course, but the Cap Blue 2025 recruiting class is as good or better than any in the country. I explain this case, not to convince the PP, who is beyond rational engagement or help, but for the sincere folks who read this thread trying to understand the lacrosse landscape.

One more bone of contention: there are several standouts on Pride. Maybe not yet at the level of the big 3 middies at Coppermine, the top middie at Hero's, or a couple players at M&D and Eagle Stix, but very good players, who will get recruited to great schools and do quite well. Come back and check this post in 3 years.

Lastly, I hope the good players and kids beyond the top 3-4 at Coppermine, or 1-2 at Crush or at MDU get good looks in the recruiting process. Those programs don't have the recruiting track records of Hero's or M&D, or Capital, for that matter.

Nice cherry pick. How about the other years? The point that is missed is that there is more talent in MD. Capital is carried by top Pride players lately and Stars brings up the rear. Capital is an all star team for DC and VA while they compete against several top 10 MD teams. A MD team with all stars from each top club would dominate. That seems to be lost here.

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Anonymous wrote:Um…a lot of the Baltimore parents I know are 1%ers

Agree. Confused by the reaction here. Why wouldn’t those with means put those resources to work helping their kids attend the best academic schools they can to secure their futures?

Of course you would. The point is if you can’t afford the school, you are not going.

But this is about lacrosse and no reasonable person is going to argue that VA has anywhere near the talent at any ‘28 that M&D, Coppermine and Hero’s have. An all star team of the MD team at ‘28 would wipe the floor with the VA kids. So, we’ll see how ‘28 does. My bet is the MD kids will be just fine.

It is about lacrosse, a game many players use to put them on a flight path to attend a great academic school which will set them up for the rest of their lives. To deny this is to misunderstand the very reason why so many play the sport.

That is one reason but for you, it is the only reason. You likely make the game joyless for your 8th grader with your relentless emphasis on college recruiting. Get them to love the game first for the joy of playing and if she has talent, she’ll be fine. The top talent at ‘28 (for the country) is clearly in MD.

If you believe I’m pushing your stated view on my DD, you’re doing the same thing by pushing the rank-is-everything / we’re-better-than-you-at-lacrosse mantra on yours. To this end, should we assume the incessant narrative you push should be held to a higher standard than being a supportive parent, helping them through wins (and yes losses), championing their work in the classroom, encouraging them to be goal-oriented beyond the field, and being selfless in providing every resource we as parents have to set them up for lifelong success? Or is being number one, or three, or five more important than these virtues?

I use the rankings as empirical evidence that at 2028 MD is light years ahead of VA in terms of talent. You imply that Capital historically has better success than MD clubs placing girls at top 20 or Ivies and that recruiting is what this is all about. Since you cannot read between the lines, I will explain to you in basic terms: the overwhelming majority of talent in the area is on MDU, M&D, Hero’s, Coppermine and Crush. All 5 are ranked in the top 10. No VA team is in the top 10 but Pride is sniffing it (at I think, 14th but with no huge standout player). Stars is a non-entity in the high ‘30s. Capital is good at recruiting, they are not miracle workers. ‘28 will not be a good year for Capital recruiting based on all available evidence and MD girls should do much better.

One more shutdown for Maryland man before we call it a day...here goes:

Capital recruiting will be just fine for the 2028 class, as it has been consistently. The argument that 2028 will be a weak recruiting year for Capital because no Virginia club is ranked higher than the Baltimore top 5, is entirely unpersuasive, as that has been the case almost every year. And yet Capital has still been able to put together very strong teams, with very strong recruiting results.

The 2025 class experience is directly on point. PP notes that the top 2028 VA team is Pride at #14 followed by Stars in the high 30s. Guess how the 2025 class at those clubs finished their 8th grade season--Pride at #13 and Stars at #38! That's almost exactly where we are now. The top players on those teams went on to Capital, and the Capital 2025 team is now ranked #1 in the country.

Here is a snapshot of how they are doing on recruiting so far: UNC; Duke (2); Johns Hopkins (2); Michigan; Notre Dame; Denver; Florida; Dartmouth; Stanford; Navy; Colorado; VA Tech; Colgate; Cincinnati; Marquette etc. That's 7 to programs in the preseason top 20 for lacrosse; and 11 to universities ranked in the top 21 academically.

The big Maryland clubs did well too, of course, but the Cap Blue 2025 recruiting class is as good or better than any in the country. I explain this case, not to convince the PP, who is beyond rational engagement or help, but for the sincere folks who read this thread trying to understand the lacrosse landscape.

One more bone of contention: there are several standouts on Pride. Maybe not yet at the level of the big 3 middies at Coppermine, the top middie at Hero's, or a couple players at M&D and Eagle Stix, but very good players, who will get recruited to great schools and do quite well. Come back and check this post in 3 years.

Lastly, I hope the good players and kids beyond the top 3-4 at Coppermine, or 1-2 at Crush or at MDU get good looks in the recruiting process. Those programs don't have the recruiting track records of Hero's or M&D, or Capital, for that matter.

Good post

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Anonymous wrote:Um…a lot of the Baltimore parents I know are 1%ers

Agree. Confused by the reaction here. Why wouldn’t those with means put those resources to work helping their kids attend the best academic schools they can to secure their futures?

Of course you would. The point is if you can’t afford the school, you are not going.

But this is about lacrosse and no reasonable person is going to argue that VA has anywhere near the talent at any ‘28 that M&D, Coppermine and Hero’s have. An all star team of the MD team at ‘28 would wipe the floor with the VA kids. So, we’ll see how ‘28 does. My bet is the MD kids will be just fine.

It is about lacrosse, a game many players use to put them on a flight path to attend a great academic school which will set them up for the rest of their lives. To deny this is to misunderstand the very reason why so many play the sport.

That is one reason but for you, it is the only reason. You likely make the game joyless for your 8th grader with your relentless emphasis on college recruiting. Get them to love the game first for the joy of playing and if she has talent, she’ll be fine. The top talent at ‘28 (for the country) is clearly in MD.

If you believe I’m pushing your stated view on my DD, you’re doing the same thing by pushing the rank-is-everything / we’re-better-than-you-at-lacrosse mantra on yours. To this end, should we assume the incessant narrative you push should be held to a higher standard than being a supportive parent, helping them through wins (and yes losses), championing their work in the classroom, encouraging them to be goal-oriented beyond the field, and being selfless in providing every resource we as parents have to set them up for lifelong success? Or is being number one, or three, or five more important than these virtues?

I use the rankings as empirical evidence that at 2028 MD is light years ahead of VA in terms of talent. You imply that Capital historically has better success than MD clubs placing girls at top 20 or Ivies and that recruiting is what this is all about. Since you cannot read between the lines, I will explain to you in basic terms: the overwhelming majority of talent in the area is on MDU, M&D, Hero’s, Coppermine and Crush. All 5 are ranked in the top 10. No VA team is in the top 10 but Pride is sniffing it (at I think, 14th but with no huge standout player). Stars is a non-entity in the high ‘30s. Capital is good at recruiting, they are not miracle workers. ‘28 will not be a good year for Capital recruiting based on all available evidence and MD girls should do much better.

One more shutdown for Maryland man before we call it a day...here goes:

Capital recruiting will be just fine for the 2028 class, as it has been consistently. The argument that 2028 will be a weak recruiting year for Capital because no Virginia club is ranked higher than the Baltimore top 5, is entirely unpersuasive, as that has been the case almost every year. And yet Capital has still been able to put together very strong teams, with very strong recruiting results.

The 2025 class experience is directly on point. PP notes that the top 2028 VA team is Pride at #14 followed by Stars in the high 30s. Guess how the 2025 class at those clubs finished their 8th grade season--Pride at #13 and Stars at #38! That's almost exactly where we are now. The top players on those teams went on to Capital, and the Capital 2025 team is now ranked #1 in the country.

Here is a snapshot of how they are doing on recruiting so far: UNC; Duke (2); Johns Hopkins (2); Michigan; Notre Dame; Denver; Florida; Dartmouth; Stanford; Navy; Colorado; VA Tech; Colgate; Cincinnati; Marquette etc. That's 7 to programs in the preseason top 20 for lacrosse; and 11 to universities ranked in the top 21 academically.

The big Maryland clubs did well too, of course, but the Cap Blue 2025 recruiting class is as good or better than any in the country. I explain this case, not to convince the PP, who is beyond rational engagement or help, but for the sincere folks who read this thread trying to understand the lacrosse landscape.

One more bone of contention: there are several standouts on Pride. Maybe not yet at the level of the big 3 middies at Coppermine, the top middie at Hero's, or a couple players at M&D and Eagle Stix, but very good players, who will get recruited to great schools and do quite well. Come back and check this post in 3 years.

Lastly, I hope the good players and kids beyond the top 3-4 at Coppermine, or 1-2 at Crush or at MDU get good looks in the recruiting process. Those programs don't have the recruiting track records of Hero's or M&D, or Capital, for that matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Um…a lot of the Baltimore parents I know are 1%ers

Agree. Confused by the reaction here. Why wouldn’t those with means put those resources to work helping their kids attend the best academic schools they can to secure their futures?

Of course you would. The point is if you can’t afford the school, you are not going.

But this is about lacrosse and no reasonable person is going to argue that VA has anywhere near the talent at any ‘28 that M&D, Coppermine and Hero’s have. An all star team of the MD team at ‘28 would wipe the floor with the VA kids. So, we’ll see how ‘28 does. My bet is the MD kids will be just fine.

It is about lacrosse, a game many players use to put them on a flight path to attend a great academic school which will set them up for the rest of their lives. To deny this is to misunderstand the very reason why so many play the sport.

That is one reason but for you, it is the only reason. You likely make the game joyless for your 8th grader with your relentless emphasis on college recruiting. Get them to love the game first for the joy of playing and if she has talent, she’ll be fine. The top talent at ‘28 (for the country) is clearly in MD.

If you believe I’m pushing your stated view on my DD, you’re doing the same thing by pushing the rank-is-everything / we’re-better-than-you-at-lacrosse mantra on yours. To this end, should we assume the incessant narrative you push should be held to a higher standard than being a supportive parent, helping them through wins (and yes losses), championing their work in the classroom, encouraging them to be goal-oriented beyond the field, and being selfless in providing every resource we as parents have to set them up for lifelong success? Or is being number one, or three, or five more important than these virtues?

I use the rankings as empirical evidence that at 2028 MD is light years ahead of VA in terms of talent. You imply that Capital historically has better success than MD clubs placing girls at top 20 or Ivies and that recruiting is what this is all about. Since you cannot read between the lines, I will explain to you in basic terms: the overwhelming majority of talent in the area is on MDU, M&D, Hero’s, Coppermine and Crush. All 5 are ranked in the top 10. No VA team is in the top 10 but Pride is sniffing it (at I think, 14th but with no huge standout player). Stars is a non-entity in the high ‘30s. Capital is good at recruiting, they are not miracle workers. ‘28 will not be a good year for Capital recruiting based on all available evidence and MD girls should do much better.

One more shutdown for Maryland man before we call it a day...here goes:

Capital recruiting will be just fine for the 2028 class, as it has been consistently. The argument that 2028 will be a weak recruiting year for Capital because no Virginia club is ranked higher than the Baltimore top 5, is entirely unpersuasive, as that has been the case almost every year. And yet Capital has still been able to put together very strong teams, with very strong recruiting results.

The 2025 class experience is directly on point. PP notes that the top 2028 VA team is Pride at #14 followed by Stars in the high 30s. Guess how the 2025 class at those clubs finished their 8th grade season--Pride at #13 and Stars at #38! That's almost exactly where we are now. The top players on those teams went on to Capital, and the Capital 2025 team is now ranked #1 in the country.

Here is a snapshot of how they are doing on recruiting so far: UNC; Duke (2); Johns Hopkins (2); Michigan; Notre Dame; Denver; Florida; Dartmouth; Stanford; Navy; Colorado; VA Tech; Colgate; Cincinnati; Marquette etc. That's 7 to programs in the preseason top 20 for lacrosse; and 11 to universities ranked in the top 21 academically.

The big Maryland clubs did well too, of course, but the Cap Blue 2025 recruiting class is as good or better than any in the country. I explain this case, not to convince the PP, who is beyond rational engagement or help, but for the sincere folks who read this thread trying to understand the lacrosse landscape.

One more bone of contention: there are several standouts on Pride. Maybe not yet at the level of the big 3 middies at Coppermine, the top middie at Hero's, or a couple players at M&D and Eagle Stix, but very good players, who will get recruited to great schools and do quite well. Come back and check this post in 3 years.

Lastly, I hope the good players and kids beyond the top 3-4 at Coppermine, or 1-2 at Crush or at MDU get good looks in the recruiting process. Those programs don't have the recruiting track records of Hero's or M&D, or Capital, for that matter.

Nice cherry pick. How about the other years? The point that is missed is that there is more talent in MD. Capital is carried by top Pride players lately and Stars brings up the rear. Capital is an all star team for DC and VA while they compete against several top 10 MD teams. A MD team with all stars from each top club would dominate. That seems to be lost here.

Anonymous wrote:I just read the last few pages after not having been on here for a week or so and I am so sorry I did. Migraine the size of Montana. I actually came on to see what people thought about girls wearing helmets and I got caught up in this sh*tstorm.

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the last few pages after not having been on here for a week or so and I am so sorry I did. Migraine the size of Montana. I actually came on to see what people thought about girls wearing helmets and I got caught up in this sh*tstorm.

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