Team managers...

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Nova2Euro wrote:Team managers will have a hundred thankless responsibilities and really are the glue that keeps the team together. If you're a good manager, everyone will have a good experience.

Jesus, all these people sniping about managers whose kids get a little more playing time than you, in your obviously expert opinions, think they deserve... LET THEM. That's literally the only possible reward for a manager after getting unceasingly griped at by parents. They take care of making sure that your kid gets to play--at least let the one parent who is actually doing work for the team see their own kid play.


No. The kid should play only if the KID earns it.


Agree. I was manager and wouldn’t want that to have anything to do with my kid’s playing time.


Disagree. I'm not spending that kind of time working for free for a team that doesn't value my kid. If someone else disagrees, they are welcome to manage. Unsurprisingly no one wants the job.
Anonymous

Agree. I was manager and wouldn’t want that to have anything to do with my kid’s playing time.


Disagree. I'm not spending that kind of time working for free for a team that doesn't value my kid. If someone else disagrees, they are welcome to manage. Unsurprisingly no one wants the job.


I managed my son's team some years and did not other years, and it had no effect on his playing time. He was a defender (before he quit soccer last year to do a different high school sport), and it wasn't like there were other kids beating down the door to play that position.
Anonymous
At uLittle, playing time really should be equal (but usually isn’t). There should be no “earned” playing time at that age.

For high level 11v11 (ECNL, GA, etc), it should 100% be earned. No preference for manager’s kid there. I haven’t seen that on my kid’s ECNL team.

For 11v11 mid-level or lower level (NCSL & EDP lower divisions), I’m fine with the manager’s kid getting a little extra.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When I did it I was in charge of the TeamSnap account, loading and revising the schedule, updating kit information for games, reminding people to update their availability, etc. it was a pain when the league would change fields at the last minute- people were already on the road to a field. Or parents asking repeatedly if I had the tournament schedule yet, months in advance, when I had already said we’d get it about 2 weeks prior. The coach and I had a good relationship so that helped and in general the parents on that team were a good group. If either had been difficult, no way would I have done it for 3 years.


This was basically my experience too. Just had to set expectations with parents that the leagues and clubs are not as professionally run as most companies they work for or patron. Also, coaches that had a clue about logistics and communication helped a lot. Only had one coach who was shady, overcommitted to too many teams, failed to show for practices, and tried to free load equipment.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I think the team manager is usually just someone helpful but it isn't as much work as it seems. Op, you should try it for a year, its not that big of a deal like class parent or anything.
I disagree with some pps here. The team manager personality to me is different than the soccer dad who is always in the coach's ear. That guy is the worst.


You must be in rec. the team manager job for ECNL is like a full time unpaid side job.


It is a huge job for EDP as well. Managers schedule all of the games.
Anonymous
I have three kids in travel soccer and have managed many of those years. I have never observed any effect on manager's child's playing time (on my kids or anyone else's). Managing jobs vary hugely club-to-club and league-to-league - and sadly parent group to parent group - but I can honestly say that I never observed any undeserved playing time.

I have a kid in Little League and it's totally different story with coaches' kids there - but LL is rec and the coaches, and their kids for that matter, put in a huge amount of extra time. I feel like the extra opportunities for coaches' kids in Little League are earned.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:At uLittle, playing time really should be equal (but usually isn’t). There should be no “earned” playing time at that age.

For high level 11v11 (ECNL, GA, etc), it should 100% be earned. No preference for manager’s kid there. I haven’t seen that on my kid’s ECNL team.

For 11v11 mid-level or lower level (NCSL & EDP lower divisions), I’m fine with the manager’s kid getting a little extra.


There is absolutely earned time in club soccer, no matter what the age group. A good coach makes sure all the kids get plenty of minutes on the field, but travel soccer is different than rec, which is where equal time makes sense.
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Anonymous wrote:At uLittle, playing time really should be equal (but usually isn’t). There should be no “earned” playing time at that age.

For high level 11v11 (ECNL, GA, etc), it should 100% be earned. No preference for manager’s kid there. I haven’t seen that on my kid’s ECNL team.

For 11v11 mid-level or lower level (NCSL & EDP lower divisions), I’m fine with the manager’s kid getting a little extra.


I will add, that for higher level teams, the manager is typically a parent of one of the players in the top tier of players on the team. One who has a good relationship with the coach and has positive attitude regarding coach, team, club, etc. It's not going to be a bottom tier player parent, where you tend to see the most grumblings. I did it for 1 year, but quickly found that for the amount of work being put in and having parents complain about hotel choices, costs, social activities, etc it wasn't worth it. Of course those were the same parents that didn't volunteer to do anything. Also, being team manager had no influence over playing time, nor should it.
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Anonymous wrote:At uLittle, playing time really should be equal (but usually isn’t). There should be no “earned” playing time at that age.

For high level 11v11 (ECNL, GA, etc), it should 100% be earned. No preference for manager’s kid there. I haven’t seen that on my kid’s ECNL team.

For 11v11 mid-level or lower level (NCSL & EDP lower divisions), I’m fine with the manager’s kid getting a little extra.


There is absolutely earned time in club soccer, no matter what the age group. A good coach makes sure all the kids get plenty of minutes on the field, but travel soccer is different than rec, which is where equal time makes sense.


Not at uLittle. Most clubs I know specifically call out equal playing time at that age. Every kid’s learning curve is different, as is athleticism, growth, puberty timing, etc.

The #1 mistake I see coaches make at uLittle is trying to win now. Not playing the tall gangly kid as much because he’s uncoordinated, always playing the ball to the same few kids who can dribble well, etc. Not playing it out of the back because defenders turn it over and lose games.

I fell prey to this myself. It’s really easy to give the most playing time to your top 7 at 7v7, or top 9 at 9v9, but not developing the project kids early limits the team. Kids are still growing into their bodies, etc. Not all of them will be stars, but some will.

Our 11v11 ECNL girls’ team has a number of players who will likely play in college, but were still projects on mid-level NCSL teams at 9v9. Conversely, there were a lot of players who were at the top of the stack early, but just plateaued.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At uLittle, playing time really should be equal (but usually isn’t). There should be no “earned” playing time at that age.

For high level 11v11 (ECNL, GA, etc), it should 100% be earned. No preference for manager’s kid there. I haven’t seen that on my kid’s ECNL team.

For 11v11 mid-level or lower level (NCSL & EDP lower divisions), I’m fine with the manager’s kid getting a little extra.


There is absolutely earned time in club soccer, no matter what the age group. A good coach makes sure all the kids get plenty of minutes on the field, but travel soccer is different than rec, which is where equal time makes sense.


Not at uLittle. Most clubs I know specifically call out equal playing time at that age. Every kid’s learning curve is different, as is athleticism, growth, puberty timing, etc.

The #1 mistake I see coaches make at uLittle is trying to win now. Not playing the tall gangly kid as much because he’s uncoordinated, always playing the ball to the same few kids who can dribble well, etc. Not playing it out of the back because defenders turn it over and lose games.

I fell prey to this myself. It’s really easy to give the most playing time to your top 7 at 7v7, or top 9 at 9v9, but not developing the project kids early limits the team. Kids are still growing into their bodies, etc. Not all of them will be stars, but some will.

Our 11v11 ECNL girls’ team has a number of players who will likely play in college, but were still projects on mid-level NCSL teams at 9v9. Conversely, there were a lot of players who were at the top of the stack early, but just plateaued.


This. If a coach takes a kid for a ulittle age group they owe it to that kid to play them. If the kid isn't good enough, it's the coach's fault for giving them an offer not the kid's
Anonymous
Even at u little. in travel soccer playing time should be earned not distributed equal . If you want equal playing time stay in rec until your ready for competitive soccer. that the the difference between rec vs travel soccer. A lot of parents want to pretend there DC is better than they are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Even at u little. in travel soccer playing time should be earned not distributed equal . If you want equal playing time stay in rec until your ready for competitive soccer. that the the difference between rec vs travel soccer. A lot of parents want to pretend there DC is better than they are.


USA soccer's recommendation is at least 50% playing time for ever player at that age
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even at u little. in travel soccer playing time should be earned not distributed equal . If you want equal playing time stay in rec until your ready for competitive soccer. that the the difference between rec vs travel soccer. A lot of parents want to pretend there DC is better than they are.


USA soccer's recommendation is at least 50% playing time for ever player at that age




let them develop either in traing or rec games. dont bring down the rest of the team to their level .
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even at u little. in travel soccer playing time should be earned not distributed equal . If you want equal playing time stay in rec until your ready for competitive soccer. that the the difference between rec vs travel soccer. A lot of parents want to pretend there DC is better than they are.


USA soccer's recommendation is at least 50% playing time for ever player at that age


let them develop either in traing or rec games. dont bring down the rest of the team to their level .


It’s uLittle soccer. The level sucks. 10 year olds aren’t anywhere close to being good technically or tactically.
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