seeking information middle school options

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Anonymous wrote:I think all Bethesda and Potomac schools do ability grouping for math and history. I think the other schools are supposed to do that too but I'm not sure all of them offer HIGH and the other cohorted social studies.


As do all schools in MCPS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My son is currently in fifth grade at a DCPS elementary school that feeds into Deal and Jackson-Reid. He does well in school and scored in the 99th percentile on his fourth grade PARCC tests in both math and ELA.

We are committed to public school as opposed to privates or DC charters. We would love for son to attend School Without Walls for high school, but I am skeptical of his admission chances because demand is so high and son fits a very typical white, upper middle class profile.

Son is the kind of kid who craves validation from peers. To increase the odds of that working in his favor, I would like him to be surrounded by other high-ability kids who prioritize academic performance. For that reason, we were disappointed to learn that Deal does not group students by ability, except for the option to test into pre-algebra in grade 6.

We are thinking of moving to Montgomery County to find a middle and high school pyramid that still groups students by ability for ELA, social studies, and ideally, science. An IB program would be great. We're open to pursuing a magnet program, but would be just as happy at a neighborhood school that groups kids by ability outside of math.

Can anyone tell me what specific middle and high schools in Bethesda and Potomac fit these criteria?

Are there any web sites or publications that outline all the magnet programs and ability-based learning tracks in the county?

What's the deal with Poolesville schools? I understand that there is a county magnet program there, but what does that mean for kids who actually live in Poolesville?

Can anyone recommend a consultant who can help us find the right program and sort out the testing and admissions process?

Thank you!



ELA is probably the weakest link in MS. For example, DC's 4th grade CES program was far more challenging than advanced English in 6, 7 and 8. Further, MCPS is a school system with consistent standards and opportunities across all schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think all Bethesda and Potomac schools do ability grouping for math and history. I think the other schools are supposed to do that too but I'm not sure all of them offer HIGH and the other cohorted social studies.


As do all schools in MCPS.


In theory, but in some schools, there is not enough of a cohort to have a whole class for HIGH for example, so they end up getting pulled out for enrichment every now and then, with most instruction being in a mixed-ability class. There was another thread about this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son is currently in fifth grade at a DCPS elementary school that feeds into Deal and Jackson-Reid. He does well in school and scored in the 99th percentile on his fourth grade PARCC tests in both math and ELA.

We are committed to public school as opposed to privates or DC charters. We would love for son to attend School Without Walls for high school, but I am skeptical of his admission chances because demand is so high and son fits a very typical white, upper middle class profile.

Son is the kind of kid who craves validation from peers. To increase the odds of that working in his favor, I would like him to be surrounded by other high-ability kids who prioritize academic performance. For that reason, we were disappointed to learn that Deal does not group students by ability, except for the option to test into pre-algebra in grade 6.

We are thinking of moving to Montgomery County to find a middle and high school pyramid that still groups students by ability for ELA, social studies, and ideally, science. An IB program would be great. We're open to pursuing a magnet program, but would be just as happy at a neighborhood school that groups kids by ability outside of math.

Can anyone tell me what specific middle and high schools in Bethesda and Potomac fit these criteria?

Are there any web sites or publications that outline all the magnet programs and ability-based learning tracks in the county?

What's the deal with Poolesville schools? I understand that there is a county magnet program there, but what does that mean for kids who actually live in Poolesville?

Can anyone recommend a consultant who can help us find the right program and sort out the testing and admissions process?

Thank you!



ELA is probably the weakest link in MS. For example, DC's 4th grade CES program was far more challenging than advanced English in 6, 7 and 8. Further, MCPS is a school system with consistent standards and opportunities across all schools.


Agree. Kids especially don't do enough writing beyond CES/humanities magnets.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My son is currently in fifth grade at a DCPS elementary school that feeds into Deal and Jackson-Reid. He does well in school and scored in the 99th percentile on his fourth grade PARCC tests in both math and ELA.

We are committed to public school as opposed to privates or DC charters. We would love for son to attend School Without Walls for high school, but I am skeptical of his admission chances because demand is so high and son fits a very typical white, upper middle class profile.

Son is the kind of kid who craves validation from peers. To increase the odds of that working in his favor, I would like him to be surrounded by other high-ability kids who prioritize academic performance. For that reason, we were disappointed to learn that Deal does not group students by ability, except for the option to test into pre-algebra in grade 6.

We are thinking of moving to Montgomery County to find a middle and high school pyramid that still groups students by ability for ELA, social studies, and ideally, science. An IB program would be great. We're open to pursuing a magnet program, but would be just as happy at a neighborhood school that groups kids by ability outside of math.

Can anyone tell me what specific middle and high schools in Bethesda and Potomac fit these criteria?

Are there any web sites or publications that outline all the magnet programs and ability-based learning tracks in the county?

What's the deal with Poolesville schools? I understand that there is a county magnet program there, but what does that mean for kids who actually live in Poolesville?

Can anyone recommend a consultant who can help us find the right program and sort out the testing and admissions process?

Thank you!



It might make some parents feel better to believe there's a real difference, but all MCPS schools are basically interchangeable. They have the same curriculum and teachers. There are some minor demographic differences that account for differences in standardized test averages but the same will pretty much get the same education at any of these schools. This is the reality of the situation, and spending a lot of money on a consultant won't benefit your kid. What will is hiring a tutor to help them in areas where the school is lacking.
Anonymous
OP, it would be too late to get your child into a middle school magnet. There are only two schools and they each take maybe 400 kids max. You'd have to have purchased a home and established residency. Otherwise, except for some schools offering Algebra in 6th there is very little until high school where kids can take AP classes. If you are happy and settled, it's not worth moving for. MCPS is overrated and lots of issues. Or, spend the money you'd use for moving on private.
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I believe Arlington public school system does much more differentiation in middle school. I think they have the same issue with having to support a wide spectrum of kids. But, it seems they do the differentiation, not bc of equity, but to ensure they are meeting the needs of all the abilities.
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OP, I have a 4th grader in an elementary school that feeds into Deal/Jackson Reed, and a 7th grader at Deal. I'm looking for differentiation, not because they are on the top end at 99%, but because they are middling. What I'm finding is that by grouping all the kids together, the school system then is not structured / disciiplined / systematized to address the kids needs. I want my 7th grader to see, "that is what you need to do to be in honors," and to have something to work for and reach for. He has nothing like that now. He thinks he's "fine," and most of the kids and parents have the same attitude. So it's hard to be the lone voice "it's only you mom."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Poolesville HS hosts 2-3 magnets and it's supposed to be a really great school.

The accelerated social studies classes at DC's MS are my child's favorite classes. There are not a lot of sections so they do really have high performing kids. Math has been really good too. The advanced or cohorted pre-algebra was called AIM but I think they changed the math sequence recently.


Poolesville WAS a great school….it’s going downhill real fast. It’s trying to to rest on it’s reputation of being a whole magnet school…but students are cheating left and right and the teachers are disgustingly incompetent and totally checked out. If it weren’t for the students and their parents pushing them t9 o be the best…poolesville would be like any other mcps high school.
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