Offside Offense

SoccerCzar
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Hello-Looks like IFAB attempted to clarify what a "deliberate play" by a defender is that nullifies an offside offense.

https://www.theifab.com/news/law-11-offside-deliberate-play-guidelines-clarified/

The odd thing is that this information does not automatically get pushed out to all the referees, so expect alot MORE inconsistency when it comes to referees calling or not calling offside after a defender "deliberately plays" the ball and the ball then goes to an attacker who was in an offside position when the ball was originally played by their teammate. I hope I said that right. : ) Good luck to all the referees out there.

retiredref
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This clarification does not change the rule, it's just information to help referees make the determination if the ball is played deliberately or not. Don't think the timeliness of when this is pushed to referees will make things harder on them--it just means things will stay exactly as they are for now. As a ref there were times when this was a point of contention between game officials but not very often. If a player in a wall jumps up on a free kick and it hits his head is that deliberately playing the ball? He jumped to meet it so he did have intent to play the ball even if he didn't know when he jumped that the ball would actually come his way. While there may be some grey areas, it is usually pretty easy for the officials to tell the difference between deliberate play and a deflection.

Referees have to recertify every year so the process for pushing out IFAB updates is that they are included in the certification courses. While this isn't a change in the law, the enhanced guidance will definitely be a discussion topic, probably along with some video examples. Some referees recert over the summer so they will get these changes immediately but more don't recert until winter so there will be a lag for them. That said, every referee is expected to keep up with those changes on their own when they are published even though some are more conscientious than others about that. Since assignors are aware of that many will use en do f summer/early fall tournaments as an opportunity to highlight any significant changes and make sure the referees know about any new rules taking effect.
SoccerRef
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First of all, this isn't something that comes into play very often, and is normally not even noticed unless VAR comes into play.

Second, it's not the refs you have to worry about, it's the coaches and parents, who probably never understood the guidance anyway, will hear something about it while watching an EPL game, and will suddenly become "experts".

With that said, this new guidance is a good thing.
The old guidance was really convoluted, and ended up rewarding players in an offside position.
SoccerCzar
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retiredref wrote:This clarification does not change the rule, it's just information to help referees make the determination if the ball is played deliberately or not. Don't think the timeliness of when this is pushed to referees will make things harder on them--it just means things will stay exactly as they are for now. As a ref there were times when this was a point of contention between game officials but not very often. If a player in a wall jumps up on a free kick and it hits his head is that deliberately playing the ball? He jumped to meet it so he did have intent to play the ball even if he didn't know when he jumped that the ball would actually come his way. While there may be some grey areas, it is usually pretty easy for the officials to tell the difference between deliberate play and a deflection.

Referees have to recertify every year so the process for pushing out IFAB updates is that they are included in the certification courses. While this isn't a change in the law, the enhanced guidance will definitely be a discussion topic, probably along with some video examples. Some referees recert over the summer so they will get these changes immediately but more don't recert until winter so there will be a lag for them. That said, every referee is expected to keep up with those changes on their own when they are published even though some are more conscientious than others about that. Since assignors are aware of that many will use en do f summer/early fall tournaments as an opportunity to highlight any significant changes and make sure the referees know about any new rules taking effect.


Correct. This is not a Law change, just guidance on how references should interpret the current Law. But I think most refs were not interpreting the Law this way, so this is a very big change in my opinion. I'm not following your example of the defender in the wall jumping and heading the ball. Are you saying that's a deliberate play or it isn't. In the spring MOST refs would have interpreted that as a deliberate play (it was even in some training videos that I watched as an example of deliberate play) that reset offside. NOW, based on the new guidance and the example videos, see Clip 11, this is not a deliberate play and does not reset offside. To be honest, I think 99% of refs I know would have said that every example in the videos were deliberate plays. The recertification process is already out. so it won't include any of this and, which assignors do you think will send this out? My guess is none, but you never know. Again, it's just my opinion that this will add confusion. As to the other post...I see this several times a season and when it does happen, it almost always leads to a 1vGK, which normally results in a goal and all hell breaks loose because more often than not, the AR has his flag up and/or the coach is screaming or the parents are screaming or the players are screaming or everyone is screaming. But with that all said, I thought I'd share so that at least the folks who read the post are aware and are informed of the new guidance.
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