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Anonymous wrote:The fact that you believe *anything* Steve Schmidt says is quite humorous.

It is easy to disparage a dead man. He can't refute your lies.

All you need to do is use Google. Dont take my word for it. The campaign staff information, the companies they sent their money to, etc is all open source and available.

And beyond that, how naive do you have to be to think that when Manafort worked for Trump, he was a bad guy with Russia ties, but when he and his business partners were working for McCain, they were just doing the Lord's work? Please.

Anonymous wrote:I am convinced more than ever that foreign nations are using dark money PACs to fund political campaigns in the US. And we really have no way of knowing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that you believe *anything* Steve Schmidt says is quite humorous.

It is easy to disparage a dead man. He can't refute your lies.

All you need to do is use Google. Dont take my word for it. The campaign staff information, the companies they sent their money to, etc is all open source and available.

And beyond that, how naive do you have to be to think that when Manafort worked for Trump, he was a bad guy with Russia ties, but when he and his business partners were working for McCain, they were just doing the Lord's work? Please.

+1 OP. I don’t understand this aspect of the GOP, to insist that people are just making stuff up. It’s out there. There are links on this thread. None of this is secret, though I certainly was unaware (or maybe I knew it back then and just didn’t understand the importance).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that you believe *anything* Steve Schmidt says is quite humorous.

It is easy to disparage a dead man. He can't refute your lies.

All you need to do is use Google. Dont take my word for it. The campaign staff information, the companies they sent their money to, etc is all open source and available.

And beyond that, how naive do you have to be to think that when Manafort worked for Trump, he was a bad guy with Russia ties, but when he and his business partners were working for McCain, they were just doing the Lord's work? Please.

+1 OP. I don’t understand this aspect of the GOP, to insist that people are just making stuff up. It’s out there. There are links on this thread. None of this is secret, though I certainly was unaware (or maybe I knew it back then and just didn’t understand the importance).

Its not even just the GOP, the left also has been totally hoodwinked by the McCains. They arent who they say they are, and even the most superficial dig into their relationships and affairs will make that clear. They have done such a good job of cementing their "moderate" image that if you say anything against them, you are ipso facto a far right extremist.

Look at who Meghan McCain married. Look at who was on John McCain's payroll. Look at the actual positions John McCain took- he led the charge to keep gays from openly serving in the military. Saint McCain was totally wrapped up in Russia and made Trump take the fall.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am convinced more than ever that foreign nations are using dark money PACs to fund political campaigns in the US. And we really have no way of knowing.

Let me think,
Do we try to influence other countries election?

DP. Yes. But I dont think that our vision for the world is the same as Russia's or China's, so the moral equivalency argument doesnt hold up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am convinced more than ever that foreign nations are using dark money PACs to fund political campaigns in the US. And we really have no way of knowing.

Let me think,
Do we try to influence other countries election?

DP. Yes. But I dont think that our vision for the world is the same as Russia's or China's, so the moral equivalency argument doesnt hold up.

Lol so you think it’s ok to force people to bend to your will as long as you think it’s all for the better? You know best what’s best for the world?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that you believe *anything* Steve Schmidt says is quite humorous.

It is easy to disparage a dead man. He can't refute your lies.

All you need to do is use Google. Dont take my word for it. The campaign staff information, the companies they sent their money to, etc is all open source and available.

And beyond that, how naive do you have to be to think that when Manafort worked for Trump, he was a bad guy with Russia ties, but when he and his business partners were working for McCain, they were just doing the Lord's work? Please.

+1 OP. I don’t understand this aspect of the GOP, to insist that people are just making stuff up. It’s out there. There are links on this thread. None of this is secret, though I certainly was unaware (or maybe I knew it back then and just didn’t understand the importance).

Its not even just the GOP, the left also has been totally hoodwinked by the McCains. They arent who they say they are, and even the most superficial dig into their relationships and affairs will make that clear. They have done such a good job of cementing their "moderate" image that if you say anything against them, you are ipso facto a far right extremist.

Look at who Meghan McCain married. Look at who was on John McCain's payroll. Look at the actual positions John McCain took- he led the charge to keep gays from openly serving in the military. Saint McCain was totally wrapped up in Russia and made Trump take the fall.

OP. I don’t think the left has been hoodwinked so much as no one wants to sht on the dead now and he more or less behaved himself back then. It really took Trump’s openness with treasonous behavior to expose how far gone the GOP was to Russia.

But I’m not actually in politics. I just can’t believe how much Russia is in the GOP.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that you believe *anything* Steve Schmidt says is quite humorous.

It is easy to disparage a dead man. He can't refute your lies.

All you need to do is use Google. Dont take my word for it. The campaign staff information, the companies they sent their money to, etc is all open source and available.

And beyond that, how naive do you have to be to think that when Manafort worked for Trump, he was a bad guy with Russia ties, but when he and his business partners were working for McCain, they were just doing the Lord's work? Please.

+1 OP. I don’t understand this aspect of the GOP, to insist that people are just making stuff up. It’s out there. There are links on this thread. None of this is secret, though I certainly was unaware (or maybe I knew it back then and just didn’t understand the importance).

Its not even just the GOP, the left also has been totally hoodwinked by the McCains. They arent who they say they are, and even the most superficial dig into their relationships and affairs will make that clear. They have done such a good job of cementing their "moderate" image that if you say anything against them, you are ipso facto a far right extremist.

Look at who Meghan McCain married. Look at who was on John McCain's payroll. Look at the actual positions John McCain took- he led the charge to keep gays from openly serving in the military. Saint McCain was totally wrapped up in Russia and made Trump take the fall.

OP. I don’t think the left has been hoodwinked so much as no one wants to sht on the dead now and he more or less behaved himself back then. It really took Trump’s openness with treasonous behavior to expose how far gone the GOP was to Russia.

But I’m not actually in politics. I just can’t believe how much Russia is in the GOP.

He did not behave himself and he made Trump look like a amatuer. Russia was so far up McCain's ass they could see out his eyeballs. And all of this stuff is available to find. Read the criminal complaint against Manafort, and the list of companies that McCain paid. McCain let a Putin advisor pick his VP candidate. It's fine to not want to speak ill of the dead but if you cant talk about the very recent history of the GOP, you cant really understand what is happening today.

BlueFredneck wrote:Translate this into kitchen table.

Because until then, it's inside baseball, and unless inside baseball leads to a perp walk, no one outside the Beltway cares.