Need help from moms who cook from scratch or less processed foods!

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Anonymous wrote:9:52, I love you.

Shouldn’t you be encouraging everyone to take that extra step; surely we all can.


I dunno, should we? I get that nutrition is a consuming interest for some people, and those who want to strive for perfection should know what to look for. But nutrition, fitness, social responsibility, and probably a host of other things aren't as fascinating to other people, and I think saying that we all need to push ourselves harder in any of those areas is to force our obsessions on other people. Those are all worthwhile obsessions, but with no, we don't all need to seek perfection. Sometimes perfectly fine is, you know, perfectly fine.


So, the 70% Americans overweight or obese because of eating like crap according to the health policy person are the ones to take an extra step. That leaves 30% obsessive perfectionists. You can't win.
zumbamama
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Anonymous wrote:So, what's the threshold for processed food consumption? Less for sure but how little is enough?


For me (health policy person here) it is if you look at the ingredients and they are very long, with things you can't recognize as food, that is a bad sign.

A fun exercise: go get a kid's "Lunchable" and flip it over. The ingredients are so many they practically have to make the box bigger to accommodate. A better choice would be to buy some turkey deli meat, best if you can buy like Applewood Farms/organic at least, and put it between two pieces of whole wheat bread. Maybe add some greens and tomato, and mustard. Same idea, and you are still eating processed foods in a way, but much, much better than the Lunchable. Your ingredient list will be much shorter, and most of the ingredients you will recognize.

A plant based diet is a great thing. But we a fair amount of eggs and yogurt, and we get the Whole Foods or local farmer's market "non industrial" chicken or wild caught salmon and eat about 1-2 a week. we get eggs from the my parent's farm, but a relative who is an organic farmer (not easy to become one by the way) says if you buy eggs from the grocery store, only buy Eggland's Best organic. The mainstream brands are pretty processed to preserve them.

Zumba Mama, it's great that you will be making your own pasta and bread. I will not get to that point. I'd love to, but it's not realistic for me at this time in my life. I try to make my simple tomato sauce and choose pasta from a box, but that is a step above mac and cheese from a box. Another great example of "less processed" vs. very processed.

And that is not to say you can't eat total crap from a box in moderation, just that the bulk of your diet IMO should be whole foods and the "less processed" foods. This is a start, hopefully. I strongly recommend the movie Food Inc. Books are fine but something about that movie, the visual is worth a thousand words.


Thanks for the egg tip. And I agree about the Food, Inc. I think everyone should watch that. Very scary and disturbing. It helped inspire me to grow my own food...although it's tough now to even find a seed that hasn't been genetically modified. It's all so sad.

Have you seen Meet your Meat (very hard to watch) or Botany of Desire?

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oops, something got deleted. I meant to write, although it's tough now to find the time to do all this, the food industry is so appalling and organic is so expensive. It will soon be tough to even find a seed that hasn't been genetically modified.
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I've been focusing less on organic vs non-organic and more on trying to get my kids to eat a better variety of foods and not get stuck on the processed stuff. I think organic is great but my real problem is getting the kids to eat things regardless of organic or not.

I'm having good success with my 5 yr old and not much yet with my just turned 3 yr old. I let them pick out whatever they want in the produce section even if I doubt they will like it. My 3 yr old loves to pick stuff out, promises to try it if we buy it but then puts his hand over his mouth when we get it home. My five year old will try it and has liked some things that surprise me like radishs thinly sliced.

My kids like to try things in stores too. At Trader Joe's they usually have something they are handing out and the whole foods prepared section will let you sample. I know DD would have thrown a fit if I served her Indian lentils and spinach at dinner but coming from the lady at Trader Joe's she tried it and really liked it. This is a kid that likes rice and corn but will not eat it if they are mized together. Go figure. DS would never eat sliced turkey until the guy at the deli gave him a sample slice.
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Anonymous wrote:I've been focusing less on organic vs non-organic and more on trying to get my kids to eat a better variety of foods and not get stuck on the processed stuff. I think organic is great but my real problem is getting the kids to eat things regardless of organic or not.

I'm having good success with my 5 yr old and not much yet with my just turned 3 yr old. I let them pick out whatever they want in the produce section even if I doubt they will like it. My 3 yr old loves to pick stuff out, promises to try it if we buy it but then puts his hand over his mouth when we get it home. My five year old will try it and has liked some things that surprise me like radishs thinly sliced.

My kids like to try things in stores too. At Trader Joe's they usually have something they are handing out and the whole foods prepared section will let you sample. I know DD would have thrown a fit if I served her Indian lentils and spinach at dinner but coming from the lady at Trader Joe's she tried it and really liked it. This is a kid that likes rice and corn but will not eat it if they are mized together. Go figure. DS would never eat sliced turkey until the guy at the deli gave him a sample slice.


My kids are a bit older than yours, but at that age, I often had to serve a dish many times until a kid liked it. My first started eating hummus no problem; the older one tried it, but didn't want it. After a couple of months of watching his brother eat it with gusto, he gave it another go and now they fight over it. And, if they liked something I would serve it often knowing they would eat it, but my older ds actually told me that he didn't like it so often, so I guess kids do crave variety. If it was me, I'd get the lentils and spinach and serve one of those with a dish you know she likes. I'd announce that this was the item she liked at the store. I ask my kids to take a bite of everything, but don't have to finish it.

I'd be careful not to assume your daughter won't like something, I think they can read into it. I think that's an easy trap to fall into for parents. Years before we had any children, friends of ours with teenagers came to visit. For breakfast we scrambled eggs with veggies and when the mom came in she gasped "my kids won't like that, can we make them some plain ones." Well, we apologized that we hadn't saved any. Guess what, the kids ate all of it and said it was delicious.

I think your time at the grocery store will pay off them, just be patient. Like you've said you've already had success.

As for making food you used to buy processed at the store: besides being more delicious, it is usually much cheaper. I posted my tortilla recipe in another post, which I've been making for years. I got them down and actually love making them because the kneading does wonders for my stress level. I don't make bread but I have many friends who use their bread machine a couple of times a week. And, making hummus from a can is cheaper than buying ready made. It's way cheaper to make a huge pot of rice and freeze portions, rather than to buy a box of frozen rice. For me, using a freezer and planning ahead usually means that I can make healthier, less expensive meals.
Anonymous
Chicken noodle soup is a good one to do from scratch. Yes, I buy the pasta and the organic chicken stock/broth but its very easy to make, freezes well and doesn't taste that off from the ones in the cans they were used to eating. I was surprised at how much salt is in the canned soup and the low sodium ones taste bland.
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"I don't make bread but I have many friends who use their bread machine a couple of times a week. "

We made bread today for the first time. It was so much easier than I expected! I am not a good cook at all and was half expecting it to explode in the oven. If you have a kitchen aid mixer with a dough hook it takes care of the kneading and the kids can still mix it and punch it down. We just did a basic fast rising white bread from the new joy of cooking book.
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Anonymous wrote:Chicken noodle soup is a good one to do from scratch. Yes, I buy the pasta and the organic chicken stock/broth but its very easy to make, freezes well and doesn't taste that off from the ones in the cans they were used to eating. I was surprised at how much salt is in the canned soup and the low sodium ones taste bland.


DH likes to make this, too. I like to add pepper and green onions.

We also make our own french fries, sweet potato fries, potato chips. Super easy. Just cut, season and bake. Lately I've been making my own honey mustard dressing out of mustard seeds, vinegar, honey, cinnamon and brown sugar. yummy.
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"We also make our own french fries, sweet potato fries, potato chips. Super easy. Just cut, season and bake. Lately I've been making my own honey mustard dressing out of mustard seeds, vinegar, honey, cinnamon and brown sugar. yummy. "

We do this too. Parsnip chip strips are really good. You take a vegetable peeler and peel long thin strips, season, and then throw quickly into the deep fryer. They are crunchy, a little sweet, and tast like chips.
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