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Anything that charges money is kind of a money grab, no? It's up to individuals to decide if it's worth it. As long as it's clear what you'll get for your money then you can decide if it's worth it.

I also have no experience with it but LaLiga select seems pretty upfront about what it is and how much it costs. One minute of googling found that just 1% from among 12,000 attendees were invited to Spain, so unless your player is better than 99% of players, best to set your expectations accordingly. But that doesn't mean it's not worth the money.
It’s a good illustration of how some clubs have teams which operate mostly independent of other teams in the same club, at the whims of the coaches. There are clubs where experiences and training are more uniform across teams, teams often train together, and coaches coordinate through the TD to set rosters for games and tournaments hopefully for the benefit of player development. Obviously this club is the every coach for themself model. But it’s a good question to get answers to when evaluating a new club.
Tell us which club this is so others can avoid them! Just kidding you don’t need any retaliation. I would start declining (or ignoring) all offers to practice and play with purple. Your kid is on cyan, you like the cyan coach, so stick with cyan for the rest of the season and find a new club next year. You might also reach out to the other club coach. Sometimes there are open spots when the season starts from kids moving clubs or other unforeseen dropouts.
dnl8675309 wrote:Heard FCV scrimmaged Richmond United this weekend. How were the games? It's a scrimmage, I get it - scores don't matter. But how were the games? Good soccer?


AFAIK, the FCV GA teams scrimmaged with them, not the merged former Barca teams
FPYCparent wrote:Until yesterday, I was a fan of rankings and the predictive head-to-head projections that YSR offered. (I haven't tried the new app to see what is new there.)

Here's my new issue. DD's team has left the cozy confines of NCSL D1 this fall season and is playing in another club's slot in another (better?) league. Aside from paying to get the other club's uniform kit and requisite league patch ... as well as playing "home" matches at the other club's home venues, DD's team won't necessarily earn any rankings "credit" for their performance this fall. Outside of one or two tournaments (where they'll play as FPYC), their team's match history won't reflect any "in-league" play for this fall. In fact, the team they've replaced will get the match "credits." The club's original team went 0-for-last-year in league play. Yesterday, DD's team went out and beat a top team from a local club (one that had at least one newly-minted ECNL player as a guest ... and former FPYC teammate of DD).

In the end, I know it won't really matter in the grand scheme, but this was something I hadn't considered about rankings until league play started yesterday.


I would tend to agree about rankings not meaningful except for the very top teams (ECNL,MLS) because they have a more consistent team roster, tournaments, and league schedule from year to year. It's especially inconsistent for younger age groups because they are more likely to form a new team just for a single tournament, use guest players, might have mixed age groups, mixed boys and girls. Some clubs at younger ages have multiple teams in different leagues with a different rosters chosen from a pool of players each week. Take the information in these ranking sites for what it's worth. There is some value in seeing records against common teams, which tournaments teams have entered, recent scores. But it's a stretch to attempt to rank these teams like it's the NFL
FPYCparent wrote:Until yesterday, I was a fan of rankings and the predictive head-to-head projections that YSR offered. (I haven't tried the new app to see what is new there.)

Here's my new issue. DD's team has left the cozy confines of NCSL D1 this fall season and is playing in another club's slot in another (better?) league. Aside from paying to get the other club's uniform kit and requisite league patch ... as well as playing "home" matches at the other club's home venues, DD's team won't necessarily earn any rankings "credit" for their performance this fall. Outside of one or two tournaments (where they'll play as FPYC), their team's match history won't reflect any "in-league" play for this fall. In fact, the team they've replaced will get the match "credits." The club's original team went 0-for-last-year in league play. Yesterday, DD's team went out and beat a top team from a local club (one that had at least one newly-minted ECNL player as a guest ... and former FPYC teammate of DD).

In the end, I know it won't really matter in the grand scheme, but this was something I hadn't considered about rankings until league play started yesterday.


I would tend to agree about rankings not meaningful except for the very top teams (ECNL,MLS) because they have a more consistent team roster, tournaments, and league schedule from year to year. It's especially inconsistent for younger age groups because they are more likely to form a new team just for a single tournament, use guest players, might have mixed age groups, mixed boys and girls. Some clubs at younger ages have multiple teams in different leagues with a different rosters chosen from a pool of players each week. Take the information in these ranking sites for what it's worth. There is some value in seeing records against common teams, which tournaments teams have entered, recent scores. But it's a stretch to attempt to rank these teams like it's the NFL
Doesn't Veo have highlights and editing already built in?

https://support.veo.co/hc/en-us/categories/4429234734993-Veo-Editor-analysis-platform-
https://support.veo.co/hc/en-us/articles/4454306853905-Add-highlights-tag-players-and-write-comments

Ask your club about getting access to the editor/highlights features in Veo. If they don't know anything about it, contact Veo customer support.

If all else fails you could always hire a college athlete recruiting service to create the highlight videos for you. The cost might be worth it rather than spending hours and hours trying to learn how to edit videos.
For college exposure, ECNL and GAL are definitely going to be your best bets because they have built-in showcases, talent id events, playoffs where hundreds of college coaches will already be there.

Your daughter will still need to reach out to coaches and send highlights ahead of time so the recruiters can plan to watch her.

Big tournaments will also have many college coaches but again she'll need to do a lot of advance work to get on their radar beforehand.

The other factor when choosing a club is to look at how many players are committing to colleges each year from that club. Relationships between the club and college coaches, former players, can all play a role in getting recruited. These relationships can help get your daughter onto the coaches radar which is half the battle. After that it's up to the player.
How do you rank a league? There are individual teams in all leagues that can beat teams from other leagues. Team and coach matters more than league, especially at the younger (pre-high school) ages. VPSL is ECNL-R in Virginia, they aren't separate leagues. At the high school ages starting at U15, I suppose the "best" league is the one with the most exposure for college recruiting purposes. For girls that would be ECNL and GAL. After those two the league doesn't matter so much as the team playing in top tournaments like Jefferson Cup which have exposure to college coaches. If your player isn't interested in playing in college then the league doesn't matter, find a team and coach she likes.
Loudoun Soccer is able to have ECNL teams because their player pool is enormous. With that many players to choose from the teams will always be decent. They are generally known for having big athletic teams who play a more direct style of play. This style may or may not suit your player. Coaching styles can vary a lot depending on the coach.
Lol I did a quick search on 2007 threads to see what constitutes a controversial subject on this site and so many statements just did not age well.

The lesson here is to ignore opinions and second hand information about clubs/teams/coaches/leagues. It's all just noise. Do your own research and what's best for your players and family.
FC Virginia is another one you could add to the mix. Mostly a girls club but they are building out the boys side and Chantilly is one of the pre-travel locations added for next year. https://www.fcvirginia.com/page/show/6183159-program-information-
Do clubs even have programs for 4 year olds? Usually starts in 1st grade. I would look at Soccer Shots, Lil Kickers, or maybe your Loudoun County Park and Rec.
Heloise wrote:We saw a lot of shenanigans at Virginian this year - kids playing without shin guards or cleats, kids playing without proper jerseys (e.g., no number), a team with two kids playing with the same number, questionable rosters (e.g., dressed 18 for one game and 18 for a different game, but had more than 4 players in the later game who didn’t play in the earlier game). I don’t remember this tournament being so poorly run in the past - was this just a fluke year?


It isn't surprising these things go on at a tournament. The more "serious" the tournament (e.g. ECNL playoffs, Jeff Cup), the better run it will be. But honestly, how does this affect your team's experience? They show up and play a soccer game against whoever is on the field. Unless you are at the high end $$$ of the events it's always a crapshoot. Having been to dozens of tournaments over the years I've learned it's best to sit back and enjoy the experience and time spent with our kids and not worry about if the other teams are playing fair or things are disorganized. Some of the best memories in hindsight were the sh*tshow tournaments, bad weather, bad fields, bad hotels.
SDSoccerDad wrote:I am clearly not hiding behind my username or anything jaja. U-13 and hell yes that's us didn't know informed consumerism was such a point of criticism? I guess I'm going to have to get used to unwarranted cynicism being back in the DMV. Trip was totally worth it btw, got a fist team offer from every club, and my DS got a chance to make a an informed decision about where and who she wanted to play ball with. Seems like a pretty cool opportunity and life lesson for a kid to experience in my book if your able to do it and if your kid is good enough to make it worthwhile. Wouldn't recommend to all but worked for our family. I love talking soccer thought this was a soccer blog... Why do you care what games I'm interested in? Cleary MD is your priority let people chat VA State Cup, stay in your lane and let people banter about what they want, thanks!


Which club did she choose?
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