“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:Either SCOTUS is to be packed NOW or the President needs to get off his a$$ and move immediately (using the military if needed) to disband the current court because of its insurrection against the constitution and transition to theocracy. After a period of study it could be reconstituted. It’s a shame it has come to this.

I support Roe v Wade but my head is exploding at the absolute stupidity of sentiments like this. Have you ever heard of checks and balances, PP? There is a reason why we have separate branches of government, despite dissent like this. The President can't just disband the Supreme Court. And reinstate it after a "period of study"? By whom??? Someone who agrees with us and does exactly what we want?? Why not channel your angst into something intelligent and actionable, rather than hysteria like this?

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks again RBG!

No dont you dare put this on the shoulders of one woman. F you. There are a 1000 misjudgments and miscalculations and lies between her and this decision.

RBG couldnt retire under Obama because there wasnt even a vote for Garland. Mitch was never gonna let her be replaced by a dem president. Couldnt retire under Trump who got 3 justices in who are all partisan hacks after influencing one justice to retire. Two of them shouldnt have been considered at all.

No. You will not put this at HER feet.

False. Obama asked her to retire in 2013, before GOP took control of the Senate in 2014 elections for Jan 2015.

OH i didnt realize it was political and a president should ask someone to step down. no see this is the bullshit, even with this reasoning you cant lay this at her feet and hers alone. its like saying a pregnancy is alone a womans issue. roe v wade does not lie at the feet of rbg alone. if anything it lays at the feet of white women who voted for trump. f&&& them not her.

The fault clearly falls on the justices who vote to overturn Roe. Not RGB or McConnell.

while this is true, politics has always been a game of battleship. You position your ships to block.

yeah and citizens get caught in the crossfire

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it so hard for congress to pass a law protecting abortion rights at the federal level?

Filibuster and gerrymandering.

The gridlock is the goal - it delegitimizes government.

So why is congress able to pass anything at all if this is always the outcome?

Congress has been dysfunctional for a long time.

Because unless a bill has broad bipartisan support (military spending, basically), the minority party will filibuster it. So bills in the Senate can only pass through budget reconciliation, which happens twice a year and only needs 51 votes to pass. This is why people advocate for the end the to the filibuster, because it is a broken tool. It’s broken the entire Senate.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it so hard for congress to pass a law protecting abortion rights at the federal level?

Do you know 60 Senators willing to protect women?

TIME for a PHONE Campaign : Call EVERY MALE MEMBER OF CONGRESS with this SCRIPT:

HI HONEY, Remember ME... I'm your date from the first Monday in May- I know you said you are MARRIED and DON"t Want a SCANDAL

BUT I AM PREGNANT and my Press Conference is in ONE HOUR on the Capitol Steps

I've reached out on IG and FB and Invited your Children, the HOS at their school, their teachers, your colleagues and ALL OF Your Neighbors

I will be SUING for 18 YEARS of Child Support

Hang Up and call the next male member of Congress, Rinse & Repeat same thing tomorrow and the next day and the next

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Anonymous wrote:Also Susan Collins' reaction is precious. As though she didn't know this was going to happen. GTFOOH.

+1 in case people hadn’t seen this:

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Either SCOTUS is to be packed NOW or the President needs to get off his a$$ and move immediately (using the military if needed) to disband the current court because of its insurrection against the constitution and transition to theocracy. After a period of study it could be reconstituted. It’s a shame it has come to this.

I support Roe v Wade but my head is exploding at the absolute stupidity of sentiments like this. Have you ever heard of checks and balances, PP? There is a reason why we have separate branches of government, despite dissent like this. The President can't just disband the Supreme Court. And reinstate it after a "period of study"? By whom??? Someone who agrees with us and does exactly what we want?? Why not channel your angst into something intelligent and actionable, rather than hysteria like this?

DP you might want to pay attention to what has actually happened. The republicans tried to stage a coup. The republicans want to burn the constitution and install a government like that found in Russian. But you want to talk about checks and balances? You are the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it so hard for congress to pass a law protecting abortion rights at the federal level?

Because of the filibuster. But also, what makes you think this court won’t strike down that law?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it so hard for congress to pass a law protecting abortion rights at the federal level?

Because Democratic votes are diluted by the constant cheating of the GOP, for one thing.

Have Democrats tried drafting and passing such a law, which has broad support among US citizens? Relying on flawed past judicial rulings to maintain such an important right is fragile, as we've just observed.

Yes: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/24/1038931908/house-democrats-abortion-rights-bill

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how many people are ok with the leak because they think it will help the left in the mid terms. If this happened 3 years ago, there would be calls for treason charges.

I haven’t seen anyone say they are ok with the leak or that it will help in the midterms. How would it help? The final decision was going to come out before the midterms anyway. But the leak softens the blow by dragging it out and making the story about the leak instead of the opinion.

No, that's what some may be hoping but that's not what the leak will do.

This is huge. There are a lot of Republicans who were not aware this was coming. They are shocked. Just like independents and Democrats are.

Exactly zero Democrats are shocked. We’ve been telling you for years what the GOP was up to.

I'm an Independent and I'm shocked. DH is a Democrat and he is shocked, but I'll be sure to tell him that he's doing it wrong.

Do that. Then check in with your Democratic friends. Seriously, if you aren’t in a right wing news silo, none of this should come as a surprise. I think there’s a level denial among people who are evincing “shock.”

lol

Why is this thread 60 pages long if no one is shocked?

Anger.

This. Lots of people are angry, and we are even more angry that millions of voices don't carry as much weight as one conservative supreme court vote.

I wrote anger, but that doesn’t quite cover my feelings. Rage. Fury. Outrage. Flat out wrath.

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White, hot rage.

Don’t F with me or my daughter.

This could be my daughter. Your daughter.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/27/world/europe/savita-halappanavar-ireland-abortion.html

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks again RBG!

No dont you dare put this on the shoulders of one woman. F you. There are a 1000 misjudgments and miscalculations and lies between her and this decision.

RBG couldnt retire under Obama because there wasnt even a vote for Garland. Mitch was never gonna let her be replaced by a dem president. Couldnt retire under Trump who got 3 justices in who are all partisan hacks after influencing one justice to retire. Two of them shouldnt have been considered at all.

No. You will not put this at HER feet.

False. Obama asked her to retire in 2013, before GOP took control of the Senate in 2014 elections for Jan 2015.

OH i didnt realize it was political and a president should ask someone to step down. no see this is the bullshit, even with this reasoning you cant lay this at her feet and hers alone. its like saying a pregnancy is alone a womans issue. roe v wade does not lie at the feet of rbg alone. if anything it lays at the feet of white women who voted for trump. f&&& them not her.

The fault clearly falls on the justices who vote to overturn Roe. Not RGB or McConnell.

NP. No, adults can and should be able to take a breath and tell the truth here. Yes, the lying liars ACB and Kavanaugh and the touchingly fake Sen. Collins and McConnell AND RGB and her apparent belief in her own immortality after multiple bouts of cancer and reaching her 75th birthday ALL played roles in this.

I’m devastated by this. Roe has been the prime target for a growing faction of Republicans since 1973, and the Reaganite nightmare of destroying federal governance and degrading all of its branches has been known. The disciplined, steady push to install crackpot liars into state Secretary of State roles by the GOP has been public. The Fed Soc list and disciplined, steady push to get their justices in at the fed level has been public. There has never - EVER - been an appetite in the Democratic Party upper apparatus to push back in as disciplined a manner, to use ALL tools to fight the fack back, and I’m sick to facking death of the retreat into protecting sacred cows like Her Holiness RGB, the legacy of Obama, and now, as Elie Mystal has written in his column for The Nation, the failure of appetite in Biden to make stacking the Court or otherwise putting up a damned street fight regarding Thomas/his corrupt wife as sacrosanct “we don’t talk about that!’ things. I just feel disgusted overall and no attempt to lionize the dead changes that for me.

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Anonymous wrote:Also Susan Collins' reaction is precious. As though she didn't know this was going to happen. GTFOOH.

+1 in case people hadn’t seen this:

Once a Justice is confirmed, they're not bound by anything, really. Whatever they said in their confirmation hearings or other prior conversations doesn't prevent them from subsequently changing their mind. That's kind of the whole point of an independent judiciary. They aren't beholden to anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it so hard for congress to pass a law protecting abortion rights at the federal level?

Filibuster and gerrymandering.

The gridlock is the goal - it delegitimizes government.

So why is congress able to pass anything at all if this is always the outcome?

Congress has been dysfunctional for a long time.

Because unless a bill has broad bipartisan support (military spending, basically), the minority party will filibuster it. So bills in the Senate can only pass through budget reconciliation, which happens twice a year and only needs 51 votes to pass. This is why people advocate for the end the to the filibuster, because it is a broken tool. It’s broken the entire Senate.

It’s not just the filibuster. It’s the republicans will not vote on any democrats legislation. So in other times you would lose a few dems and pick up a few republicans. This only applies to the dems.

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Anonymous wrote:Also Susan Collins' reaction is precious. As though she didn't know this was going to happen. GTFOOH.

+1 in case people hadn’t seen this:

I'm sure her brow was furrowed, though, when she made the statement.

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Anonymous wrote:Also Susan Collins' reaction is precious. As though she didn't know this was going to happen. GTFOOH.

+1 in case people hadn’t seen this:

Once a Justice is confirmed, they're not bound by anything, really. Whatever they said in their confirmation hearings or other prior conversations doesn't prevent them from subsequently changing their mind. That's kind of the whole point of an independent judiciary. They aren't beholden to anyone.

They need to be accountable. This legislating through the courts is bs and anti democratic. The court must go.

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Anonymous wrote:Also Susan Collins' reaction is precious. As though she didn't know this was going to happen. GTFOOH.

+1 in case people hadn’t seen this:

I'm sure her brow was furrowed, though, when she made the statement.

Is she concerned?